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Retoucher here. I desperately need help with getting setting from a shoot

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I’m so sorry if this has been asked before but I’m just so frustrated. For years I have been told from photographers that the .cos have all of the settings I need for the raw files. But that just doesn’t seem to be the case. Unless of course I have the actual session file as well. Which isn’t very feasible for like 10 selects because the files are huge and full of 1000s of images. It feels like every commercial photographer or digi I’ve ever worked with doesn’t want to or even know how to package .EIP files. It’s always a struggle. My question is: Is there actually a way to utilize .cos files to apply the shoot settings to raw files they send me? I have used the method of creating a new session and going into the folder contents and deleting/replacing and renaming things workaround. But it’s so convoluted and I can’t quite remember how we did it. Is that really the only way? Feels like I’m always jerry rigging things when it should be so much simpler. Ugh I miss .xmp files.
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  • Ray Harrison

    I know that there are also .comask files that you might need, and I know that will depend a lot on what happens before it gets to you (obviously). This Feature Request forum may or may not offer help - and the thread may get moved anyway.  I can recommend two facebook groups that have great people who can perhaps help. They are run by Walter Rowe and colleagues: the Capture One Technical Forum (https://www.facebook.com/groups/captureonetech) and Capture One Pro Group By Photographers (https://www.facebook.com/groups/313842842738008). Check those out, join and ask your questions.

    Too, EIP files are a fantastic way to share. It's easy to do, and I'm curious as to why there's pushback, do you think, from your colleagues? If they want you to work on raw files with edits / changes already applied, then that's the best option (in my mind), unless, as you say, they ship you the whole session over WeTransfer or similar approach, which can be large. The other way to share information can be through Capture One's Frame.io integration, which is great, but does have associated costs. 

    At the end of the day, they need to get you the right raws with the associated edits. EIP is really the right way to do it. You can probably do it through .cos and .comask files, but it seems like it's asking for heartache. My 2 cents. 

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  • FirstName LastName

    Honestly, I think the push back is laziness/just cant be bothered. I have refound that one work around where you:

    1. make a new session
    2. Place the raw files in the capture folder and let CO generate thumbnails
    3. close CO
    4. go to the session folders and replace the individual .cos files (not the folder just in case the version you are using is different than what was used on set)
    5. Restart capture one and hopefully the adjustments will be there.

    I guess that's how everyone else does it if they don't have .EIP files. It's just so clunky that I feel there should be an in program process instead of messing about with folders and stuff. Thanks for the facebook group recommendations!

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  • Ray Harrison
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    :-) It's that "hopefully" part in #5 that's always concerning. "Hope means Nope". Or even better, "hope isn't a strategy". :-). Give those Facebook groups a try. Best of luck!

    I should say that the above steps aren't specifically wrong, it's just that you can't guarantee it. I'd hope that everyone wants the best outcome (I know, I know, "hope means nope"). The in-program process is actually EIP and it works every time, I feel. It's the raw plus the edits. And it's guaranteed.  

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  • BeO
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    Your workaround immplies that thereare no images in the Selects folder.

    Let me suggest a slightly different order, not addressing the Selects folder but the time you need to wait until you can start working:

    1. make a new session
    2. close CO
    3. Place the raw files in the capture folder 
    4. place the individual .cos files (and .comask files, if exist) in the CaptureOne/Settingsxxx folder (don't replace the folder just in case the version you are using is different than what was used on set)
    5. Restart capture one and let CO generate thumbnails
    6. and hopefully the adjustments will be there.

    Make sure you have the same version as on set, or a higher version.

    The different versions might be a thing, however I don't know if EIP files have any advantage over the .cos / comask files if the versions differ.

    If you have more insight from the Facebook groups please consider sharing. (I never joined the sugarmountain empire).

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  • Denis Huk
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    hey everyone, thanks for commenting!

    i'm moving this post to another topic as this is not a feature request

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