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Metadata and ICC Profile Automatic Default

Ray!
I'm going through a bit of a learning curve with Capture One Pro 8 at the moment, coming back after many years of using Lightroom. The forum has answered a few questions already, but I can't find any answers to the question alluded to in the title.

I want to be able to automatically assign an ICC profile (that I've already created) and IPTC content data to a particular camera model that has files uploaded to Capture One. I tried setting this to default, but each time it simply reverts back to the generic settings. I can do this manually, by selecting all the photos and then the ICC profile and IPTC profile, but this is kind of cumbersome.

I can't find any save setting that applies these settings as a resident default. Have I missed something or is this not possible?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Regarding the ICC profile, you probably might have tried to make it the default for your camera but failed. This can happen when the profile is not named according to the naming convention Capture One 8 uses.

    You can lookup the naming convention for your camera with a simple trick. Select the default Phase One made ICC profile. Go to Color Editor, and in the action menu choose Save as ICC Profile. The save dialog opens and you see something like this:
    CanonEOS5DMk2-Color Corrected
    The first part (<camera name>-) including the dash is the naming convention for your camera.

    What kind of IPTC metadata do you like to append to images? Have you tried to make a preset and apply it on import?
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  • Ray!
    Cool, that did the trick.

    As for the metadata, I want to change the IPTC-Content Description from the camera company name to my own. Again, I can do this by selecting all images and then selecting the text I want, but it doesn't apply this when I open up another set of images from the same camera.
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  • SFA
    Ray! wrote:
    Cool, that did the trick.

    As for the metadata, I want to change the IPTC-Content Description from the camera company name to my own. Again, I can do this by selecting all images and then selecting the text I want, but it doesn't apply this when I open up another set of images from the same camera.


    Ray,

    The IPTC question may or may not have a simple answer but looking at the data I have for my images IPTC Content - Description is always an empty field.

    That you see something in there may be manufacturer or even camera model dependent.

    Whether that has any relevance to a possible solution I don't know but I thought it was worth mentioning.

    I would not have thought that that particular block of data fields was intended to be camera specific by design - but I'm not expert in such things.

    Grant
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  • Ray!
    Yes, it's very much camera specific information. The metadata fields are correct for the copyright information etc that I've set in the camera, but this field always comes up with the camera details, which is completely irrelevant.

    It's not a major problem, as I can change these fairly quickly, but for it to become a default setting would be nice as it then saves another step in the processing.
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  • SFA
    Ray,

    I don't see any way that that part of the Metadata would be somehow logically camera related in a "standard" concept unless the camera was primarily (and perhaps only) used for a specific type of shoot. In fact I would not have thought that the Image Content information would be intended by the spec to be "naturally" used for the purpose you have in mind. That's not to say I disagree with your desire, just that it's not an obvious use. There are other fields that would seem to be the intended destinations for that information.

    So I'm wondering if, for some reason, the output from the camera is somehow being mis-allocated in the metadata; or whether there is something set in the camera that reports what you see into that field; or whether you perhaps have some other xmp type file interaction going on - whether you know about it or not.

    I know that does not answer your question as presented but then as I don't see the same situation it may be that you perhaps need a different question for it to be answerable to your satisfaction. For example if the information is coming from the camera AND can be changed in camera would that give you what you need?


    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Ray,

    I tried my suggested workflow for your IPTC question (create a preset and apply on import). It work as expected. Have you tried it already? This is a great solution if the description is static. In general it is not.

    Fortunately, you can use the Description field in the import dialog for dynamically entering information for each import.
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  • Ray!
    Thanks Paul

    I did try that and I do have a pre-set that always appears in the drop down box, but it doesn't associate itself with the camera model like the ICC profile does. So maybe it does have something to do with the camera as well. It's no big deal, as the alternative option doesn't need that much extra work. The ICC profiling was far more important.

    Cheers

    Ray
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  • SFA
    Ray,

    I don't see a way to make the IPTC sections into "Defaults" for a camera.

    As I alluded to previously the sections that you mention don't seem to be the sort of metadata information that would logically camera related. I would have though that nearly all camera specific data would be something for the EXIF fields. The once exception I can think of would be Copyright related information if that too can be entered into the camera settings as user sourced data.

    On that basis the provision of a default setting for IPTC information associated with a specific camera would probably not have appeared as a design feature requirement.

    HTH.


    Grant
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