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  • Offizieller Kommentar
    Mathieu B
    Product Manager

    Hi everyone, 
    Thank you for the suggestion - this is not something we are currently working on.

    This does not mean this is a bad suggestion or that it will never be adressed, but in an effort of transparency we want you to know that we are not currently allocating resources to solving this issue.

    We will revisit the status of this thread if and when it changes.

  • NN96041

    this is gonna need a lot of pressure since it's been known and requested for some time

    there's workarounds, or i should say they are forcing us to do it the C1 way with sessions groups albums and filters

     

    what you're requesting would simplify workflows for many and while keeping their methods for who needs them, but oh well

    2015 https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=100084.0

    2016 https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=113327.0

    2018 https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=123089.0

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  • Enrico Tabacchi

    Thanks for the comments but you're going a little off topic.

    You are on a photo set, you are acquiring images remotely, you have taken 2000 photos, to create 20 different looks.

    The customer requests that everything be divided into folders on the file system.

    The customer approaches you and asks to see all the photos of three specific looks, taken at different times of the day. Being able to compare the photos with each other.

    With capture one to do such a thing you have to do a lot of steps, create a temporary album where to throw everything in and create confusion at the archive level. On Lightroom select the three folders of the three different looks and that's it, you already have all the photos you need, all in one place, clean and tidy.

    You talk about dates and places, but those are problems, without offense of course, of an amateur photographer, not a professional.

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  • NN96041

    this is a feature request forum. what are you on about

    i posted links from 2015 until 2018 showing many people requested this and he's definitely not alone

     

    what exactly do you think the point of this forum is, this is the request side. if you don't agree with a feature request stay out or downvote

     

    stop lecturing

     

     

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  • SFA

    Enrico,

    I think you also need to create a Request that will be properly managed in the support case system.

    Are you shooting tethered and using sessions? If so do you make use of Session Templates?

    Have you looked at the additional features in the Enterprise version of C1? I think it is probably the version that is aimed more specifically at your type of needs.

    It may not offer what you describe as your requirement but is likely to be the specialized version of C1 that can best be justified (by the product managers) for adaptations for the sort of use that you have described.

    It would probably be worth being familiar with it even if only to be able to tell the developers why is does not currently suit your requirements for the way you wish to work!

    Grant

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  • NN96041

    well there's the problem i hope you understand now what we're dealing with

     

    All Images is a 'smart album' that includes 'Session Folder', 'Albums' and 'Favorites'. 

    so a workaround that's mentioned in one of the forum posts includes adding your folders you want to work with to 'favorites' temporarily

     

    There have been other suggestions all revolving around usage of smart albums, using multiple 'sessions' or just switching to catalogs but a simple recursive option combined with folder multi selection would solve all these issues and keep the existing workflows

     

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  • BeO
    Top Commenter

    I am not saying that the possibilities C1 offers are better in all cases for everyone, or for everyones preferred workflow, but what I want to say is that I find it very refreshing to hear somebody open minded having tried to figure out a workflow which works best for him, given the tool at hand, and it resulted in a workflow even better than the wokflow he was used to work with, and report and try to help here with such a positive attitude. Very refreshing.

    cheers Jehuda

    regards

    BeO

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  • NN96041

    never used LR in my life and i didnt submit this feature request either. wake up man people have different needs than you so stop forcing them to use what works for you doesnt work for many many

    you should go back to the echo chamber where you came from as well

     

    no regards lol so small

     

     

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  • Artur Nunes

    In every operating system I know, namely windows and macos, there is a standard procedure for multiple selections: you control/command click files or folders for non contiguous selections, or you shift click for continuous file selection. Be it folders, files, images, whatever. It's basic suff, for years. Nothing special, nothing new, nothing extreme.
    It bugs me and I tear my hair of trying to understand why this feature or shortcut is not available is Capture 1, pro and all. I have to use other software to move folders from one place to the other, to delete a group of folders, without having to perform this sophisticated task one by one. The folder handling in Capture One is lacking things that we take for granted basically everywhere else.

    While I don't see the rationale for not having this in place in the current version, I find odd (and really don't ger it, as a photographer or in a developer point of view) and surprising that this humble but essential feature is not in the radar for future release.

    If someone would like to explain and justify, in a simple and objective way, why this is so, I would much like to hear. 

    Thank you, have a nice weekend. 

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  • Jehuda Waeltermann

    The example post of 2018 and other Posts linked by NN96041 could be done by using Metadata. And it could be done theat way even better than by doing it with Folders.
    After importing The first step is Always to fill in the meta data of Location and copy it to all Pictures of that Import. Than thoe Pictures are already grouped by coutnry, cits and Location and can easily be found. And on top of it (refereing that linked 2018 post) I can type in "zoo" in filter and get all Zoos in all countrys. 

    Also another user wants to browse by date "Folders" while Browsing by date can be done inside C1 no matter what Folders the Pictures are in.

    I am relative new to C1 and started in September 2019. Before that I did Video for over 10 years owning a big Archive with lots of Folder Organisation. And I have to admit the way C1 does it is far better than thinking in file foldes, but it feels weird at first time. I have Chosen to organize my Picture Folders by Event Name and a generic Folder per year. But with use of some tags and meta data I can find Pictures even faster.

    I started to complain to myself About the lack of not Browsing Folders but I have to admit the way C1 does it is better. And its even more powerful when using tags or batch renaming on Import so the file Name reflects the Project or something worth to be mentioned as being a filter. e.g a filename like event-customer-date-counter. I do that with makros on Import.
    just my two Cents, think About it and try it out. When a beginner like me can organize over 10 K photos and find everything in split seconds even faster thatn Browsing in Folders it can't be that bad - it's opposite.

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  • NN96041

    we're talking about sessions. are you working with catalog?. how are you making date filter work for subfolders?

     

    folder structure like this example:

    photos 

      -> jan

      -> feb

     

    if i open 'sessions' and navigate to "photos" i cant select any dates since there are no photos in it. they are all in subfolders

    there's no amount of tags going to make anything show up when i select 'photos' 

     

     

     

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  • NN96041

    how do you select all images if they are in subfolders?

    im in a root folder called 'photos' that contains only subfolders where the photos are - like jan/feb/

     

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  • Jehuda Waeltermann

    Even if I have organized my Video work in Folder structure for over a Dekade I now see now Advantage of doing so anymore. Like we are using Google: We do not want to "browse" through Topics and Folders, we just type in what we are Looking for. 
    In my opinion it's more a "I did it for yearts, i Need this" - Thing.
    When I want to work with, let's say, all photos of a Special year I can browse by filter tool. And if I use a fodler structure by year, I can do that. But what if I want to select all photos of a Special Person or Event?
    As soon as I have two or more criteria a Folder structure eats up time because I can only browse by one criteria that was Chosen when Building the Folder structure. And then Ihave to take a look at each photo and search for it by clicking through. That is of no efficeny at all. I stuck to folder structure for too long when I look back. Now a simple structure by event or project to keep the disk speed high (lots of files in a directory always slow down access to files) and working with meta data gives far more options in quick access. Open your mind :)

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  • Jehuda Waeltermann

    Thanks Beo :)

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  • BeO
    Top Commenter

    Enrico,

    There is one requirement of the customer which might lead you to the assumption you need to create folders and subfolders:

    The customer requests that everything be divided into folders on the file system.

    Sometimes customers requirements need to be fulfilled, no matter what. I understand. So, let's find a solution for this. 

    Assuming you can distinguish the images at the time of import regarding Look, for example (you can, otherwise you could not spread them into different folders in your current workflow). After import you can set a IPTC field of your choice to hold the information about the Look.

    During the evaluation / image comparison, you can use All images in combination with filters, or you define smart albums based on filter criteria.

    After the evaluation, you can export the images, processed to jpg, tiff or else, into a folder structure of your choice which C1 creates for you on export automatically, based on tokens like the IPTC field of your choice which holds the Look, or even divide into more subfolders based on other metadata information. Note that it is not possible with keywords I believe, so you might use keywords but when you need tokens for export you would need to select images by keyword and set an IPTC field accordingly.

    And you can do this also with the original raw files (export into subfolders by using tokens to define the subfolder names).

    So you should be able to fulfill and provide the files according your customers requirements, without even having to create the folder structure by yourself or moving images into static albums.

    Does this sounds as a viable solution to you and your customers requirements?

    About the time savings or if you need more time I cannot really assess, but I can imagine it is about the same, once you are familiar with this approach, and you gain more flexibilty on top.

    regards

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  • Jehuda Waeltermann

    Again, thanks BeO. I hope you two guys don't mind if I sounded more complicated but english is not my native language. BeO pointed out even better what I wanted to say and Show.

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  • BeO
    Top Commenter

    Thanks, Jehuda, no one should mind if there is a helping attitude. As a non-native speaker I am missing some nuances of the language or culture, hence I often understand non-native speakers better :-) Regards.

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  • NN96041

    i mean i see how you guys are working but that really does not work the same for everyone. it is more complicated to use albums, smart albums and filters

    enrico complained about that in the first paragraph and it seems to be completely ignored and i agree with him 

     

    you should be able to select whatever folders in system folders you want and see all the pictures and apply whatever filters if you want. im not sure why that is so complicated or radical

    you get to keep whatever workflows you are using right now

    recursive folders can be a checkbox, or right click operation. it would simplify everything. if you want to move files it would be way easier to just drag them around when they are multi selected instead of this IPTC nonsense and import metadata and exports

     

     

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  • NN96041

    yikes. good riddance

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  • Jehuda Waeltermann

    Please be patient, guys.
    This is a request feature Forum but even the amount of users requesting a feature does not mean by default that it is a good one or that it does fit into the workflow. Beeing a developer myself I learned that many, even most feature requests are based on the fact that people switch from one Software to another and expect that old workflow to be the same.

    But sometimes there are reasons that it is not. So one solution of the Software company is to add that feature and one solution is to open the mind for that different workflow.

    I did the last one and what do I say: It works better. That is what BeO and I wanted point out. Sometimes People ask for a feature simply because the are stuck in their own workflow and I am no exception to this. C1 does a different approach and that is really worth looking at it.

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  • F Straker

    Having the ability to access / manipulate objects (folders, user collections) in a hierarchical fashion is IMHO a real no-brainer. Didn't DOS do that already? This kind of request is around for years. It is quite surprising that we even have to discuss.

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  • SFA

    Relational database have been around for years as well - but still we cling to manually generated and managed folder structures.

    The person who invented the filing cabinet  - and thus the skill of misfiling things - may need to be questioned about their motives.

     

    ;)

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  • F Straker

    Fully agree. I am all in favor of working preferably with attributes (ratings, labels, keywords, etc.).

    However, I see the one click aggregate folder / album view just as a "keyboard shortcut" for a frequently used "query" yielding the same results. Its ubiquitously present and C1 should have it too.

    If  one "loose the folders" design principle is becoming fashionable with C1 development BTW I wonder what about the "move to _Reject folder" menu item.

    ;-)

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  • Lily

    Hi Enrico,

    Thank you for your comments and suggestions provided.

    Your request on the recursive view (#26517) has been handled by the Support Team and has been forwarded to the Product Management.

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  • Enrico Tabacchi

    Hello, any news?

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  • LightRoomConvert

    "In your example you have to have that structure already to select those Folders in Lightroom. So you took time to create that structure. If you would have taken the same time to create it inside C1 insetad on hard drive you could Archive exactly the same."

    How, exactly?

    As I tried to explain here: https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360014198838-How-to-select-files-in-multiple-folders-If-not-possible-what-is-the-next-best-alternative-Albums-cannot-be-nested it's not just that refiling years of photos is a thankless task; it's that, even if you wanted to do it, how would you do it?

    You cannot nest albums one into the other. If you want some kind of hierarchical structure, like:

     

    ---- 2019

    ---- ---- Laura's wedding

    ---- ---- ---- Wedding

    ---- ---- ---- Honeymoon

    ---- ---- New York Holiday

    ---- ---- ---- Manhattan

    ---- ---- ---- Brooklyn

    ---- ---- Christmas

     

    How would you do it?

     

    The lack of this most banal feature is the only thing keeping me from leaving Lightroom - and I am not the only one.

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  • LightRoomConvert

    Enrico (the OP), have you found an alternative? Either within CaptureOne or with another program?

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  • Denis Huk
    Admin

    Moved from the archive on 16.05.23.

    Show images in subfolders implemented in v20 (14.3.0): The history of tools and features added to Capture One Pro

    Selecting multiple folders / collections logged.

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  • Mathieu B
    Product Manager

    Hi Artur Nunes, I just wanted to clarify that "not currently planned" means it is not something that we are working on at the moment.

    Everything that is on this forum is "on the radar" for future releases, but until we make the decision to actively work on the specific request, it's not planned.

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  • Artur Nunes

    Thank you Mathieu B for your answer, I was not aware what "not currently planned" meant.

    It's just that these multiple selection gestures or shortcuts are so common that I didn't understand why it still not standard in CO1, which always had lots of customisation, multiple gestures and keyboard shortcuts.

    Maybe your user base is not that much concerned with this omission.

    Anyway, if it's "on the radar" for future releases, I will keep hoping and wishing that future is not very far.

    Thank you.

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