Practical Limits On Photos In a Catalog
I'm looking (very nearly "there") at abandoning Adobe and switching Lightroom to Capture One.
I use Lightroom as a DAM and processing. My impression from internet reviews is that Capture One is superior for processing but many think it is not as good as a DAM.
Looks like it would meet my needs for functions but my concern is the max practical limits on the number of photos in a catalog before it becomes "nasty" to use. Lightroom users talk about 100,000+ without any issues whereas C1 users seem a lot less certain (some talk 20,000 as a practical limit).
I appreciate it's a bit of a "how long is a bit of string" question as much must depend on hardware platform (SSD speed, etc.) but my library is growing fast and does not neatly split across different catalogs (e.g. Travel and Natural history and quite a few images would be in both when used as DAM)
1. What sort of numbers of images have people used in a single catalog without (or with) issues
2. If my single catalog becomes too large and I have to split is there seems no in-built mechanism within C1 but could I first copy the Catalog file using file manager e.g. Photos copied to Travel and to NatHist; then open the Travel catalog and delete out all the Natural History photos, then open the NatHist catalog and delete out all the travel photos.
Ideally I'd want to keep as a single catalog so the practical usability limits (I'm using a 1 year old MacBook Pro with loads of RAM and a good sized SSD).
(Also, anything else I should consider switching as switching seems a lot of work (some lost) and I don't want to jump out of frying pan ...)
I've not yet downloaded trial and will before buying but my catalog is growing so I doubt my current catalog would cause problems and thus it's a longer term future question rather than something I can test before switching.
Many thanks
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Many thanks.
I'm amateur and whilst lack of stability can be a frustration, provided the catalog does not get corrupted it wont cause me to miss a submission deadline or anything. How much of an issue in use are the stability problems and do Phase One make regular fixes and minor updates?
I suspect my SSD is pretty fast (1 year old MacBook Pro, 2TB) but although splitting the catalog would not be neat, it still provides a plan B as the catalog grows.
Without wanting to launch into my frustrations with Adobe I need to be cautions that those frustrations are not "Cutting off my nose to spite my face" (as the expression goes).
(I started in Apple Aperture, then switched to Lightroom when it began to look like Apple were abandoning Aperture)
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Stability used to be an issue but is now much less so. I have Capture One set to ask to backup every time I close a catalog. I have my backups on a separate drive and they do not take up much space. If I have done any work, then I let it back up. In Capture One 12 and 20, I haven't had to use a backup yet.
Capture One usually produces a new version in the fourth quarter (X.0). In the first quarter there are usually some bug fix releases (X.0.1, X.0.2 etc this year up to 13.0.4), and very often in April or May there is a minor upgrade (X.1) with a new features and more bug fixes. Then there may be bug fix releases (X.1.1, X.1.2) for that.
Quite often the dot dot releases also add new cameras and lenses.
Last year we ended with 12.1.4 , the year before with 11.3.1
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C1 catalogs are very slow. I have a catalog of ~17k images in a C1 catalog and searching is extremely slow. I can search my entire old LR catalog (which is larger than my C1 catalog) and get instant results in LR. In C1, searching my entire catalog can take 15-20 minutes. Even searching just a folder instead of the entire catalog can take many minutes. Also, before you can search the catalog or a folder you must first wait for C1 to load all of the images in the catalog or folder -before- you search, otherwise the search will fail. I just started C1 and selected "All Images" from the Library tab. It took three and half minutes to load all of my photos. During that time I cannot search these photos; it may or may not find my photo. If it doesn't find the photo that doesn't mean it's not in the catalog but only that it isn't loaded yet.
By comparison, I can search my hard drive and find any photo in within 5-10 seconds.
C1 is a very good at photo editing but the catalog system is a dinosaur and you're better searching in LR or just searching your disk for a file then opening the file from that folder in C1.
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