How to tint the whites
Hello,
I'm currently evaluating Capture One Pro as an alternative for Aperture and Lightroom and there is one thing I can't quite figure out. I like to tint my whites (and sometimes my highlights) with a dash of pink or cream. I'm used to do this with curves, adjusting the reds and the blues. In Lightroom and Aperture you can move the endpoints of the curves, but not so in Capture One. This means I can't really tint my whites with this method, only the highlights. Does anyone know an alternative technique to accomplish this in Capture One?
Joakim
I'm currently evaluating Capture One Pro as an alternative for Aperture and Lightroom and there is one thing I can't quite figure out. I like to tint my whites (and sometimes my highlights) with a dash of pink or cream. I'm used to do this with curves, adjusting the reds and the blues. In Lightroom and Aperture you can move the endpoints of the curves, but not so in Capture One. This means I can't really tint my whites with this method, only the highlights. Does anyone know an alternative technique to accomplish this in Capture One?
Joakim
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I couldn't find a way to do it either. I tried curves and levels and even split tones but split tones isn't activated until you check the B&W box so you can't use it for colour images which is bit disappointing really.
I too started on Aperture but then went to Lightroom. I have been trying to use Capture One for about 6 months but I still use Lightroom as my main tool at present because of stability issues in CO and the fact the default ICC profile the Nikon D800 is tinted brown so is unusable for me in most situations.0 -
But you can move the endpoints in Levels. Won't that solve the problem? 0 -
I know but it doesn't seem to work that well compared to split toning. It may help the OP though. 0 -
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Hello,
I'm currently evaluating Capture One Pro as an alternative for Aperture and Lightroom and there is one thing I can't quite figure out. I like to tint my whites (and sometimes my highlights) with a dash of pink or cream. I'm used to do this with curves, adjusting the reds and the blues. In Lightroom and Aperture you can move the endpoints of the curves, but not so in Capture One. This means I can't really tint my whites with this method, only the highlights. Does anyone know an alternative technique to accomplish this in Capture One?
Joakim
You have curves in CaptureOne and there are buttons for red/blue/green. Furthermore you can use the Levels (also in red/blue/green) todo similar effect (buy cutting of color instead of moving it).0 -
Thank you for your suggestions. I've found a somewhat involved way, by first using levels to cut one or two color channels at the whites (and blacks) and then use the tone curves to fine-tune areas affected.
I've used it in this image, giving it a pinkish cast in the whites and highlights, and a bluish-green cast in the shadows: http://magiso.com/photos/tinted-whites
/Joakim0 -
Lovely image. Nice and subdued tinting. 0 -
Very nice result, Joakim, and thanks for sharing. 0 -
Hi Joakim,
As Paul said - a very nice treatment of the image.
Out of interest did you look at the Color Editor (Advanced Mode) as a means of getting this result or something similar?
The changes it makes are often quite subtle and can sometime be difficult to see, depending on how you select and set things, but that seems to make it good for tinting. Plus you can use it on the main image and/or with one or more Local Adjustments (that can also be applied to the whole image of course!)
If you looked at the Color Editor and rejected it I would be interested to understand how it didn't work for you. I find it quite tricky to use but the results are good when I get them right for my purposes. Sometimes too subtle though ... I do not claim to have good skills in color manipulation! Nowhere near in fact ....
Grant0 -
Thank you, all!
@SFA I must confess I haven't quite got the hang of the advanced color editor just yet. While I'm sure its very possible to get the results I'm after using it I wanted a solution I could apply on most images during import, with very little adjustments to individual images. Also, I only want to tint the ends of the histogram (whites, highlights, deep shadows and black) and I don't think that would be possible using the color editor. Right? Local adjustments are powerful, but a bit involved when processing a lot of images, I think.
Joakim0 -
Hi Joakim,
If you get a look you like you should be able to save that as a style that you can apply easily as part of an import OR as a batch edit post import for those images where it looks like thee right way to go.
There is no reason why you should not develop a few versions of the style(s) to cope with different shooting situations.
And I suspect that any variation in images would be no more difficult to adjust with the colour editor that they are with your other process once you have a good feel for it. Indeed they may be easier, especially using local adjustments where you could have some variations set up ready to activate/deactivate to see what happens and what suits the image best.
The long term option might be to set up one or more ICC Colour Profiles
http://blog.phaseone.com/take-full-cont ... ilm-curve/
or a personalised colour look
http://blog.phaseone.com/tweak-the-defa ... ur-camera/
Whilst these articles do not deal with the lightest and darkest parts of the image i think the same principles might be adapted for you needs.
All of that said ... I do have some other software that would make the selection task somewhat easier by the many ways it allows users to make selections. If I can find a suitable image I may try a back to back test.
HTH.
Grant0 -
@Grant
All of that said ... I do have some other software that would make the selection task somewhat easier by the many ways it allows users to make selections. If I can find a suitable image I may try a back to back test.
That sounds very interesting indeed. I looked briefly into making my own icc-profiles, but it didn't quite seem to fit my needs.
I think my main issue with the color editor approach is that I only seem to be able to shift existing colors (hue, luminosity, saturation etc), not *add* color to whites and blacks. Am I wrong here? Also, to get the look I'm after only want tint in the light and dark parts of the images, preserving midtones (including skintones). As many others I'm after a more analogue film look, with a subtle split-toning.
Joakim0 -
Hi Joakim,
I would say that adding colour to a "white" (they rarely are really "pure" white of course) is less likely than reducing the colours that you want to lose.
However your levels approach seems reasonable and you can make further adjustments with the curves tool by placing fixed points on the curve to limit the most changed parts of the curve to the high and low values. Using Colour Readout pins on the relevant parts of the image can be very helpful with that.
The Colour editor, in advanced mode, allows you two options that seem likely to be helpful - perhaps in addition to your levels and curves settings?)
Firstly you can specifically pick colours that you wish to alter although you may need to pick several colour points to make a selection that completely covers the range of almost whites and almost blacks that you want to modify. (also taking WB into account of course!)
Secondly, if you need to you can apply a local adjustment mask and so control where the effect is applied and how strongly it is applied. At the time of writing this is not possible for levels and curves. One could argue that Levels and curves are not really the sort of tools that fit well with local adjustments if you want a balanced result for an entire image ... but sometimes it would be nice to try them!
My experiments continue.
Grant0 -
wouldn't this be alot easier if C1P allowed us to move the endpoints of a curve like it can in PS? 0 -
@Edward51. Absolutely -- but then this thread wouldn't exist...
I've submitted a feature request for this, though.
/Joakim0 -
i think I've made this request in the past but maybe no one know I made it?
If we had a feedback request site like alot of other software companies - we could vote on each other's ideas.0 -
hello, this option of curve top moving (like ps) existed in capture one 3 and i used it a lot.
i asked several times to phase one to keep for newer software version because the levels workaround (that i'm using anyway) is not subtle as curve tool option.
ay least i'm happy that someone else finds this option very important and
i hope it will be reintroduced for next versions, inshiallah!
paolo0 -
I can second that moving forward from version 3 controlling the end points in curves or levels is something that I still miss on a daily basis. 0 -
I have no idea if Phase One staff frequent these forums, but it's probably best to voice this request through a proper support ticket. I did this a while ago and they added the request to their database, but it probably helps if more people does the same.
/Joakim0 -
my android nexus phone photo software has a curves tool with moveable end points.
I doubt at this point they would add it back, I find that once features are removed for whatever reason we are forced to find workarounds. Like levels in the this case but that is not as effective.
I know I say it alot but a feedback feature request site would really benefit users. Photoshop has one. Cocoatech (they make Path Finder) has one.
In the absence of a trackable user feedback site like that - I hope everyone here has made a support case request this long lost feature restored.0
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