Session with existing folder structure
hello
I've the following folder structure for my images: year/month and I was wondering how I could use a C1 session without having to move/reimport my files and basically use the year folder maybe as the capture folder?
Thank you in advance for your input.
I've the following folder structure for my images: year/month and I was wondering how I could use a C1 session without having to move/reimport my files and basically use the year folder maybe as the capture folder?
Thank you in advance for your input.
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You can make the Capture folder whichever folder you want. Or you can ignore it.
The session folder structure is provided as a reasonably logical offering for something like a studio shoot.
However your question suggests that's not what you are expecting to do and maybe you plan on having a session per year or something like that.
The Year/Month folder structure is a little redundant for C1 if C1 is your only edit tool. However if you use other tools as well it likely still has relevance. Doubly so if you are comfortable with it.
If you want to keep a Session self contained (all folders in the session folder structure) then put the import folder in the Capture Folder where the Capture folder represents a Year and you create a sub-folder for each month (for example).
You could than copy an entire year of activity by copying the top folder.
Or you can set up your familiar folder structure as you do now, navigate to the folders with images and make those folders favourites in C1. However any session copy or backup activities will NOT include those folders and contents although copying, etc, through C1 should maintain the links from the Session database to the original image files and their sub-folders containing C1 edit instructions and previews, etc.
What is best really depends on your wider needs but the options are very flexible.
HTH.
Grant0 -
[quote="mmjaeger" wrote:
hello
I've the following folder structure for my images: year/month and I was wondering how I could use a C1 session without having to move/reimport my files and basically use the year folder maybe as the capture folder?
Thank you in advance for your input.
I suggest you do what I do:
Set up a session, name it what you like. Open the session, totally ignore the session Folders, session Albums and session Favorites claptrap and go straight to system folders, navigate to the folder with the picture you want to edit and click on it to open it, select the picture you want to work on and away you go. Capture One will create a sidecar file named CaptureOne within the folder your edited file is in containing all the edit information etc - as long as you back up that sidecar file with your masters it does not matter one iota what happens to the session directory.
Hope this helps
Dave0 -
Thanks guys - that really helps 0 -
[quote="David532" wrote:
[quote="mmjaeger" wrote:
hello
I've the following folder structure for my images: year/month and I was wondering how I could use a C1 session without having to move/reimport my files and basically use the year folder maybe as the capture folder?
Thank you in advance for your input.
I suggest you do what I do:
Set up a session, name it what you like. Open the session, totally ignore the session Folders, session Albums and session Favorites claptrap and go straight to system folders, navigate to the folder with the picture you want to edit and click on it to open it, select the picture you want to work on and away you go. Capture One will create a sidecar file named CaptureOne within the folder your edited file is in containing all the edit information etc - as long as you back up that sidecar file with your masters it does not matter one iota what happens to the session directory.
Hope this helps
Dave
True enough.
But you are potentially discarding some useful options and in my opinion it's a good idea to know and understand all of the options.
I use both types of sessions approach - even some hybrids of the two. It depends what I am doing and why.
@mmjaeger
I just wanted to point out that although the default session structure includes the Capture, Selects, Output and Trash folders in a visible folder structure the selections of those folders in the Library tool are LINKS. That means that you can change the folder to which the links point as often as you like, should you choose to.
I think it is useful to understand that even if you decide not to make any use of the feature.
Grant0 -
I'd love to use the default folder structure but I don't see how I could use my existing folder structure which is 2018/08 for instance as the capture folder so 2018 would become the Capture folder in the session. 0 -
[quote="mmjaeger" wrote:
I'd love to use the default folder structure but I don't see how I could use my existing folder structure which is 2018/08 for instance as the capture folder so 2018 would become the Capture folder in the session.
It doesn't really matter whether you use the default Capture folder.
I sued to create my own (but I mostly shoot events and don't really need a Year/Month structure for those). However I do use the date in the fiels name, and other places.
If I have a Session for a long term project I might use a date based structure but usually make the Session the year.
Internally the session will allow me to drill in my year/month/day without needing the structure - so long as I tell the session that I want it to by making folder "favourites". Usually on importing in my case but sometime I will connect to a non-imported set of images in a folder somewhere - which is what David532 is referring to.
It all depends on my purpose and whether or not I think the images will be "shared" with another editor. In my early days of using C1 that was the case - I still used a previous favourite editor (not a big name application) quite a lot and it required manual management of folders. It was a while before I fully realised that using C1 was more flexible that that yet did not prevent me using the previous editor if I wished to do so. (Though I find I don't these days.)
The simple thing to do would be to just treat the Capture Folder as you year folder (or add you year folder anyway and just Import to that if it make you more comfortable for now. You can make it the Capture folder if you wish but in reality unless you are shooting tethered the Capture folder concept is not significant.
On import (assuming not tethered for this part of the description) you can simply have C1 create the Moth folders (if you have not already done so manually) and populate your imported images into those folders. Add further sub-folders within the Month sub-folder automatically as well if you so desire.
Albums and smart albums then allow you to regroup images that have been spread, possibly far and wide, in your structured folders providing far more flexibility than would otherwise be possible. Quite like a catalogue in effect but with a slightly different usage design intent. (Note that C1 was based on session functionality before catalogues were introduced.).
This may all sound rather confusing and strnage if you just dive straight in and use or replcate your existing storage structure. That's what I did when setting out with C1 becuase it's what I had from using the previous preferred system (no catalogues as I had moved away from V1 LightRoom.)
After a year or so as I was committing more and more to C1 as the converter of choice I reviewed my rather random approach and somewhat incomplete understanding of how C1 was designed to work (with sessions only back then) and realised I was making life more difficult than it needed to be. So I set out to re-assess what was possible and realised I could make life easier. Things have moved on a long way since then and today the process can be even more effective - but the flexibility available can be daunting too unless one clears one's mind and settles down to discovering what is available and deciding whether it look like it might be useful to one's needs. You can, to a large extent, pick and choose what you believe will work for you and maybe find some things that you have previously wished for but forgotten about or find new ideas that really appeal to your imagination.
If you have enough disc space you could emulate the use of a Session per year by running an import for a previous year and include copying the source files into a folder structure created under the top level session folder (That way you can delete it again easily afterwards without any risk of disrupting your existing archive.)
There is more I could suggest - but let's leave it there for now as a starting point.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Thank you Grant for your detailed reply - the reason I'm asking these question is that I'd like to avoid having to reimport the pictures into the Capture folder because all the pics are already backed up to the cloud - if I'd rearrange them, the backup would start from scratch which would take weeks if not months.
I'm still trying to figure out how to best use C1 as I'm moving away from Aperture - unfortunately C1 isn't able to deal with the same amount of pictures in a catalog as Aperture was able to handle in its library - I'm not doing too many adjustments to my pics and I'm currently using PhotoMechanic to keyword and rename and save my pics.
Once again, thanks for your input0
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