Organising folders by date taken? (newbie)
Hi
I'm a LR user who is gradually trying to migrate to Capture One. One thing I keep having trouble with is they way folders are organised after an import. I would like to configure so that Capture One organises my pictures in a folder by date taken.
So let's say I have 5 pictures : 3 taken on 2015/10/3 and 2 taken on 2015/10/5.
When I import, I would like C1 to store these under "My pictures\2015\10\3" and "My pictures\2015/10/5" with all files in the date folder.
As it is now, C1 seems to import my pictures into a structure based on date of import with seperate folders for each picture or date taken (not sure).
Anyone can help here?
I'm a LR user who is gradually trying to migrate to Capture One. One thing I keep having trouble with is they way folders are organised after an import. I would like to configure so that Capture One organises my pictures in a folder by date taken.
So let's say I have 5 pictures : 3 taken on 2015/10/3 and 2 taken on 2015/10/5.
When I import, I would like C1 to store these under "My pictures\2015\10\3" and "My pictures\2015/10/5" with all files in the date folder.
As it is now, C1 seems to import my pictures into a structure based on date of import with seperate folders for each picture or date taken (not sure).
Anyone can help here?
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Do you use catalogs or sessions? you can easily sort files by date taken inside catalog using filters. And there is no need to create folder per date 0 -
Commenting only on the "Session" mode of C1 which I'm using and which gives me total liberty about how to organize my images.
Here an example about how my files are organized.
I'm shooting a Sony A99 actually (besides a RX10 and a RX100) so the first organisation level identifies the camera in combination with the 10th of thousand images run (1-9,999; 10,001-19,999; etc.)
A9xx with xx running from 01 to 99 - which would allow separation of 99 times images from 0 to 9,999
Next subfolder level identifies the date and an abreviated description of the event: YYMMDD-Yellowst. Due to the format of shooting date YYMMDD the sequence in the main folder is kept cronological.
And the picture identification is kept original as contiunously numbered by the camera.
Works well for me since I started to use C1 back in 2007/08 and is pretty easy to back up / copy to external HD.0 -
I too am evaluating C1 as an LR replacement and the biggest hang up I'm having is the file organization methods used by C1.
From what I can gather, C1 started out as a very niche pro-studio app to support PhaseOne hardware, where it was primarily used by studio photographers with a session based workflow. Fast forward a few years (and a few bogus updates to LR) and C1 is starting to appeal to a wider audience of "switchers".
C1 8.x (again from what I gather) has only 2 primary organizational methods:
1) Catalogue — a virtual, monolithic, proprietary file package that is only readable by C1. Images are referenced, or incorporated into the catalogue and all filtering and organization is done via C1 using "virtual" methods like "albums" and "groups". Catalogues are not often preferred since they are monolithic and present backup issues if a catalogue grows too large in size.
2) Sessions — A physical (actual directories) organization method that create a sub-structure for every defined "session", or set of images belonging to the same event/subject/client/shooting session as defined at import.
Both on their own, for a new photographer with no previous library of images are quite versatile, but if you already have a massive library of images (organized by date for example as the OP suggests), neither method #1 nor method #2 are very helpful at all.
Catalogues are slow, and proprietary. They rely on image references which is fine, but then you have to manually organize your photos into folders somewhere else, to then import them into the catalogue. Sessions on the other hand do nothing for an existing library — imagine having to retroactively create sessions for multiple years worth of photography!?
For example I imported my LR catalogue into C1 — now I have a massive wad of images that were once organized in folders by date (yes I can access them one folder at a time in C1), but no way to look at entire months or years without creating complex "smart albums", which replicate my already existing folder structure. Plus when I import new images, I have no way of importing them into folders by date... so where do they go? I have to manually create the date folders before importing, then import them? What have other "switchers" done?
C1 has great tools for a studio (or session based) workflow. And I'm seeing the benefits of that workflow while learning about C1, but the transition from date-based organization to session based organization can be insurmountable if you already have a large existing library of images.
If C1 could import into folders arranged by year, month, date — then optionally add them to a catalogue that would help. So would the ability to see images recursively in the folder structure — for example, clicking on a folder called "2015" containing subfolders for every month, would give you a listing of all images in those sub-folders, without having to click on each month's folder.
Maybe my LR corrupted brain just has to rid its addiction to an organized file structure and allow the concept of one giant folder of every image I have ever taken and let C1 make sense of it... while I use sessions going forward — Or we can make C1 smarter and allow it to handle files and folders more intelligently — effectively adding a 3rd organizational paradigm to its toolkit.
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[quote] 2) Sessions — A physical (actual directories) organization method that create a sub-structure for every defined "session", or set of images belonging to the same event/subject/client/shooting session as defined at import. [/quote]
Not sure if our understanding match here. But Sessions is not an organisation "method". It just allows working in the file organization defined by the user abd the "creation of sub-structures" means only that on first opening of a folder which contains image files, a set of sub-directories is created by C1 in that folder. Those sub-directories hold separately proxies (which are created on file import or first opening of the image holding folder) and adjustment parameters. So the entire macro structure of the file organization is done by the user. BTW, I've never used the import function but copy the files from the camera to the created folder on the HD and only then I open C1 and point it to the reffered folder. Then proxy generation starts.
Edit: It's not only image file organizastion itself but also different types of storing edit info which sets the available RAW conversion SW apart - and possibly make a migration troublesome especially if it's not only about the image data to transfer but to keep all (important) aditional information. In this case I agree that it might be too much a hazzle a migration. Perhaps a side-by-side operation could be a solution for specific needs, when one SW has real performance advantages over the other on specific editing tasks.0 -
Thanks @Michael11 — I see what you're saying — thanks for the reply!
There's something about posting a question on a forum that always sparks discovery — turns out I found the answer to my own question (love that). To replicate the way LR imports and organizes files in C1 do the following:
1) Import some images (from any source)
2) On the C1 import window under "Import To" -> "Store Files", Select "Choose Folder"
3) Select the parent folder that contains your existing directory structure — in my case a parent folder called: "Photo Library"
4) Click the three dots ( ... ) next to "Sub Folder" — This is where you configure the pattern for your directory structure. Mine is: YEAR/MONTH/DAY -> YYYY/MM/dd
5) Save the preset (so you can reuse it later)
6) Click ok, then import.
The ability to click on a year folder and see the folder contents recursively is still missing, but I have a support request in with P1 to fix the Smart Album "Date-Year" filter ( Posted here as well: )
Hope this helps other LR switchers!!
*NOTES:
- My folder structure is this:
Photo Library
- 2015
-- 10
--- 01
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[quote="wOOge" wrote:
The ability to click on a year folder and see the folder contents recursively is still missing, but I have a support request in with P1 to fix the Smart Album "Date-Year" filter ( Posted here as well: )
Just out of interest here .... and based on what I see when working in Sessions (I don't use Catalogues).
If you go to the Library Tools Tab there is a sub-section for Filters.
In there should be a section for Date if I recall correctly. If it's not a default then you can turn it on via the "three dots" route at the top of the Filters tool then the "Show/Hide" selections.
That should give you a Year > Month > Day of month breakdown and image count.
What do you see?
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