Photo Mechanic & Capture One
Capture One 9 must handle xmp files differently than Photo Mechanic and Lightroom.
When I import my photos that are already starred they import fine, however if I start the photos in Capture One 9 then it doesn't transfer back to either Photo Mechanic or Lightroom. For that matter Adobe Bridge either.
I really like to use Photo Mechanic and Capture One together, but I can't seem to get them to place nice together.
Anyone have any thoughts?
When I import my photos that are already starred they import fine, however if I start the photos in Capture One 9 then it doesn't transfer back to either Photo Mechanic or Lightroom. For that matter Adobe Bridge either.
I really like to use Photo Mechanic and Capture One together, but I can't seem to get them to place nice together.
Anyone have any thoughts?
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There are differences, but star ratings should indeed work. Capture One must of course update the XMP-file with star ratings and Photo Mechanic must subsequently read star ratings from that XMP-file. As Photo Mechanic can read star ratings from multiple sources, the two application must agee on what to use.
My PM Preferences->IPTC/XMP settings
When reading IPTC/XMP:
For JPEG, TIFF, PSD, DNG photos: Read embedded XMP before IPTC
For TIFF-based RAW photos search in the following order:
First: Read XMP sidecar file, Second: Read embedded XMP, Third: Read embedded IPTC
When Writing IPTC/XMP:
For JPEG, TIFF, PSD, DNG photos: Add embedded IPTC (XMP will always be written)
For TIFF-based RAW photos:
Allow RAW files to be modified : ON (you may not want this)
Add embedded metadata: ON, plus XMP and IPTC
Always create and/or update XMP sidecar file: ON
In Capture One: Set a star rating on an image, Use the Metadata tool (circled "i"), click the tree dots button on the metadata bar and select Sync Metadata from the popup menu. The operation should update the XMP-file. Observe the star rating on the image in Photo Mechanic.
You may want to check your Capture One preferences for metadata (Preferences->Image). The Metadata section allows you to prefer Embedded XMP over Embedded IPTC (I do), and to prefer Sidecar XMP over embedded Metadata (I do).
The Auto Sync sidecar XMP setting has three options: None, Load and Full Sync. Most of the time I have it set to None, a manual click is required need to update XMP files. At times I find Load or Full Sync useful. I personally think there could have been four options for automatic metadata sync: None, Auto Load, Auto Save and Auto Full Sync (load and save). Two check boxes, one for Auto Load and one for Auto Save would also do quite ok.0 -
Thanks for the help.
I set the settings that you suggested and have gone through the steps of updating star ratings in Capture One and then syncing them.
They still are not updating in PM.
I also now seem to generate all kinds of xmp files that are located in the directory that PM is showing. I don't believe I have ever seen that before. I assume I shouldn't delete them, but they are a little annoying.
I am also getting a dialog box on Capture One that pops up telling me that an xmp file can't be written.
Hopefully you can help navigate me through these issues.0 -
[quote="BCMielke" wrote:
...I am also getting a dialog box on Capture One that pops up telling me that an xmp file can't be written.
If Capture One can not write to the XMP-file, I would not expect Photo Mechanic to read what Capture One failed to write. You probably need to resolve the XMP-write problem first of all.
At the end of this post I include a full copy of the content of a XMP-file created by Photo Mechanic on ingest from a memory card and then updated (written to) by Capture One v9.1.2. My preference settings and procedure were outlined in my first post except for the fact that I selected one image in the Capture One Viewer, pressed the "4"-key to set a four star rating and then klicked the Metadata->...->Sync Metadata. I then observe the four star rating in Photo Mechanic on that image.
I suggest you should get it to work with one image before dealing with more files. Pick one image in Capture One and make sure you can see the same image in Photo Mechanic.
The four star rating is in my XMP-line number 18 where it says xmp:Rating="4".
For the sake of a little experiment that you may want to try, I open the XMP-file in a plain text editor, changed line 18 from xmp:Rating="4" to xmp:Rating="2" and saved the XMP-file (overwriting the original XMP-file)
Photo Mechanic immediately displays 2 stars when I click on the thumbnail image. Capture One still displays 4 stars, but changes to 2 stars once I do Metadata->...->Reload Metadata
My XMP follows.
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<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="XMP Core 4.4.0">
<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/"
xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"
xmlns:Iptc4xmpCore="http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpCore/1.0/xmlns/"
xmlns:photomechanic="http://ns.camerabits.com/photomechanic/1.0/"
xmlns:aux="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/aux/"
xmlns:exif="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/"
xmlns:Iptc4xmpExt="http://iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpExt/2008-02-29/"
xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
photoshop:City="Nærbø"
photoshop:Country="Norge"
photoshop:DateCreated="2016-06-12T15:08:28"
photoshop:Urgency="0"
photoshop:LegacyIPTCDigest="0204E6FF317FF2CF66EA5C6FC267A22C"
xmp:CreateDate="2016-06-12T15:08:28"
xmp:Rating="4"
xmp:Label="None"
Iptc4xmpCore:CountryCode="NOR"
photomechanic:ColorClass="0"
photomechanic:Tagged="False"
photomechanic:Prefs="0:0:4:001055"
photomechanic:PMVersion="PM5"
aux:ImageNumber="1055"
exif:ExifVersion="0221">
<Iptc4xmpExt:LocationCreated>
<rdf:Bag>
<rdf:li
Iptc4xmpExt:Sublocation=""
Iptc4xmpExt:City=""
Iptc4xmpExt:ProvinceState=""
Iptc4xmpExt:CountryName="Norge"
Iptc4xmpExt:CountryCode="NOR"
Iptc4xmpExt:WorldRegion=""/>
</rdf:Bag>
</Iptc4xmpExt:LocationCreated>
<dc:creator>
<rdf:Seq>
<rdf:li/>
</rdf:Seq>
</dc:creator>
</rdf:Description>
</rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
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Thanks again. I haven't had a chance to look at this again, maybe later today. 0 -
I have looked at this further. Thanks again.
I have tried this on both a jpg file and a DNG file. I have not yet tried it on a NEF file.
I have confirmed via the sidecar xmp that Capture One does update the file correctly and the file does contain the star rating change from 2 stars to 3 stars.
However when I go over to PM it must not be reading the sidecar xmp because it still remains at 2 stars.
I also went over to Lightroom and ACR to see if they saw things differently. They also don't see a star rating change in the file and still see 2 stars. When I update either in ANY of the other program they all update correctly.
Ok since I was able to isolate the issue, I believe I may have found my solution. Capture One handles DNG, jpg and tif files differently than Adobe and PM. That seems to be what causes the issue. Capture One creates and xmp files for these file types and doesn't seem to be able to embed it into the files. Adobe NEVER looks for the sidecar xmp and only looks for the embedded data.
Looks like it can't be done.0
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