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How to Search For Photos Using Keywords?

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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    There is a filter tool. You have to select a standard collection, user defined collection or folder with images first.

    http://help.phaseone.com/en/CO8/filters

    cheers
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  • JustBobF
    Okay, a follow-up question:

    Is a Keyword filter cumulative? I ask because there is an item in the filters drop-down menu called "Results Match All Criteria". I would think that means that for a photo to show, all the Keywords selected must be assigned to the photo.

    For example, if I assign "foyer" and "after" to a photo I would expect that photo to show up when I select the same keywords as filters, but not show if I were to select "foyer" and "before" at the same time as the filtered keywords. That doesn't happen, though.

    Is this a bug?
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    In the filter dialog window, if you set "all" then an image must have all keywords (all criteria/rules fulfilled). It works like logical AND.

    If you set "any" then any of the keywords will do to make your image part of the filtered result set (logical OR).

    I checked both with two keywords and it works (version 8.3.3, windows)

    cheers
    BeO
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  • SFA
    [quote="JustBobF" wrote:
    Okay, I see how to create and assign keywords to photos, and I think I know how to use the keyword library; but!, once we have created the keywords and assigned them to photos, how do we search for photos assigned to those keywords?

    I'm using Sessions, not a Catalog.


    If you go to the Library Tab and open it you should expect to see it has a sub-section for filters.

    Open that and a number of default fields are available for filter selection by radio button.

    A list of all used Keywords in the currently selected images can be found there. To select by using more than one keyword use the usual "multiple selection" key combination for your hardware and click as many of the radio boxes as you need.

    This is an alternative approach to using the search/filter facility. Both are useful.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • JustBobF
    Thank you, Grant and BeO…

    I still cannot get this to work.

    On the Filters panel, I have selected "Foyer" and "Before". If I click the three dots at the right of the Search (filters) field, the selected Keywords are shown, but the "any" match type is also selected. I cannot click on the drop-down menu to select All. (I wish I could upload a screen shot to show you.)

    At the top of the Filters panel, there is another ellipse menu with an option for Results Match All Criteria. That option is currently checked. Still, all of the Foyer images are showing, Before and After.

    I don't understand what I am doing wrong.
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    [quote="JustBobF" wrote:
    (I wish I could upload a screen shot to show you.)

    yes, that would be good. If you have a place in the internet to upload to then you could link it here...
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  • JustBobF
    Okay, here are a couple of screen shots:

    http://bobfaulknerphotography.com/Filter1.png

    I cannot change the pop-up menu from Any here.I have After and Foyer selected as Keyword filters, yet all of the Foyer images are showing.

    And, another screen shot:

    http://bobfaulknerphotography.com/Filter2.png

    Here, the pop-up menu shows Results Match All Criteria selected, yet all Foyer images are showing, even the Before images, which is not a selected Keyword.
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    Hi Bob,

    I have the with same C1 v8, windows. Never noticed that before.
    Best
    BeO
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  • SFA
    Bob,

    Are you first selecting the radio buttons and then going to the filter definition using the ... at the top of the filter list?

    One of the options there is to toggle "Result matches all criteria" on and off. Effectively and All or "Either" (Any) selection.

    Is this something that is in play here?


    Grant
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    Yes Grant, this toggle doesn't do anything. If you open the filter dialog, the preselected keywords ("active filter") are always "any" . Does this work with your installation?
    Regards
    BeO
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  • SFA
    The Search window in Windows seems a little different, only one "ANY/ALL" selection right at the top of the Search window. But no, changing that makes no difference to the search.

    HOWEVER` - go back to the filter section with the radio buttons and toggle the option in the 3 dots menu mentioned above and it does switch between any and all.

    In effect, although one can open the Search definition to see the details it is really only for information (or so it seems). I can sort of understand that. If you minimise the radio button sections of the filter the active buttons (which even if all subsection are open might be off the screen) are not necessarily visible - so the filter is a means to displaying the rules in play.

    More over opening the search window does allow additional filter criteria to be applied whilst retaining whatever has been established as the "base" filter by the selected radio buttons.

    It would, of course, be better if the parts of it that could not be altered and amended were locked out rather than available but doing nothing. However there may be some use case and functionality that we have not yet spotted.

    Whether we will feel it is a valid case is another matter.

    Of course for all I know the Mac OS may work quite differently - hence the apparent duplication of "Overall" and "Active Filter" matching selections in your screen shot that I don't see in my Windows system.


    HTH.

    Grant
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  • JustBobF
    Thanks for trying to help guys. The filtering feature seems to be damaged in the Mac version of C1 9.

    Maybe when they get back from Christmas vacation, C1 can take a look at it. (I have re-submitted by tech support request to them.)
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    Grant,

    I am on windows too (C1 8.3.3), and I see the exact same thing. When you select 2+ items of the same kind (e.g. 2 keywords or 2 colour tags) then the "Match Any" dropdown box will show up in the "Active Filters" section of the dialog. Moreover, if you select 2 keywords AND 2 colour tags, then each will have such a box. One box must be meant to locgically combine keyword 1 and keyword 2, the other to combine colour tag 1 and colour tag 2. How the keyword group and the colour tag group is combined is unclear.

    However, if you select 2 colour tags and just 1 keyword, you'll only see 1 "Match Any" box. !?!
    EDIT: Makes sense But only if it is not intended to let the use combine the colours (group) and keywords (group) with either "any" or "all".

    In all cases the "Match Any" box is disabeld. And in all cases the toggle in the tool menu is not reflected in the "Active Filters" nor in the "Search Critiera" sections' drop-down box.

    Always, Match Any is shown. But, it seems that the colour tag and keyword are combined using logical AND (Match "all").

    Not only do I think that this filter window is very non-intuitive, I also think it is buggy, at least the "Active Filter" section.

    Cheers
    BeO

    EDIT: And I agree, it seems that the "Search Criteria" section is meant to be a filter option on top of the base (active) filter.
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  • JustBobF
    Bello BeO,

    I would like to add that if two Keywords are selected in the Filter panel, and then just one color tag is selected, the only images that then appear are those of that color tag. The Keywords seem irrelevant at that point.
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