Crop Question
Using a Nikon D3s, file size 4256 x 2832 (approx. inches 17.75 x 11.8.) I attempted to crop an image using inches in CO 6 and CO showed the starting file size as 14.19 x 9.44 inches. The image was zoomed out and this was consistent on all images. When I switched back to pixels, it gave the right image size of 4256 X 2832 px. A 14 x 11 crop would be around 3358 x 2639 px, which is doable in CO 6, but trying to get this size using inches is a no go. Is this a bug and I should forget cropping by inches; or am I missing something? Also, using the preset sizes, such a 10 x 7, was useless.
Any help would be appreciated,
jim
Any help would be appreciated,
jim
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Hi Jim,
Maybe you are confused because you are not yet aware how some aspects are interrelated. Perhaps I can shed some light (worth a try, huh?). Some facts first, actions next.
Fact 1: whether full image of cropped, you have a number of pixels horizontally and vertically (again: pixels only, not talking size or ratio yet)
Fact 2: when cropping you either apply an aspect ratio or work unconstrained
Fact 3: any amount of pixels (full or cropped, and whatever ratio) translate into image size (inches, cm) based on the Resolution and Scale settings in your process recipe
Baseline is understanding the connection between:
amount of pixels <-> resolution (px/in) <-> image size in print
Now back to Capture One.
Action 1: in your output recipe define Resolution and Scale settings; regarding Scale setting, determine whether you choose a fixed scale, one dimension (width/height) or both. If you select both, you determine your crop ratio in your recipe, which I consider a not flexible hence not desirable choice. Better: to end up with a certain image size in inches (14 in long edge), at a particular resolution (300 px/in) you can have Capture One upscale on output automatically.
Action 2: set aspect ratio for the crop tool unless you determined it in process recipe; use a predefined ratio, create a custom ratio or work unconstrained and type in the tool the values (14 x 11 inch)
Action 3: crop your images; the result will always be 14 x 11 in at 300 px/in on output0 -
Thanks Paul, a senior moment. Forgot about the recipe. Who says there are no stupid questions. 0 -
Paul I don't get it ☹️ !
I have a portrait orientated shot and want to crop it to 10x8 vertical. But the largest area I get is 9.83 in x 7.87 in. I also have the checkbox "Crop Outside Image" selected that does not permit me to drag the crop outside the frame.0 -
Doug, first the "Crop Outside Image" applies only when you have used rotation or keystone. As I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, more settings affect the size than crop ratio. Don't confuse size with crop ratio. Look at you output recipe settings for example. Have you been able to get through my earlier post in this thread (24 April 2011)? 0 -
Paul-
I did read it several times, but it is not making sense to me. Currently I have an image where I used Keystoning. The image is smaller than frame, when I go to the crop panel and click the button "crop outside image" nothing changes. Am I doing something incorrectly?0 -
[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
Doug, first the "Crop Outside Image" applies only when you have used rotation or keystone. As I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, more settings affect the size than crop ratio. Don't confuse size with crop ratio. Look at you output recipe settings for example. Have you been able to get through my earlier post in this thread (24 April 2011)?
Paul- I re-read it again just now and I played w/ the Scale in the Process Recipe Panel. My current setting is "Fixed" at 100%.
In the Crop Tool Panel my ratio is 4x5 and I want an 8x10. When I crop the crop tool gives me a read out of 4.88 x 6.10. This is where I begin scratching my head. How do I crop a particular area that is smaller than 8x10 to 8x10?0 -
[quote="dougstroud" wrote:
the Scale in the Process Recipe Panel. My current setting is "Fixed" at 100%.
"Fixed" (at 100%) will output the actual pixels you have available as cropped in the photo, regardless of ratio. To have CO up or down scale the photo to 300 dpi/ppi as an 8x10 you need to choose another scale in your process recipe. For instance setting the scale to "Dimensions" with a setting of 3000 x 3000 (resolution at 300 px/in), you will output a full 8x10 regardless of landscape or portrait, providing you have used a 4x5 crop ratio. Upscaling too much may cause pixelation.0 -
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