lens not recognized
My Tamron 24-70 (first generation) is not recognized by capture 12. But it is in the list of lenses, and I have to enter it manually . Capture 11 did the job..
I inform phase one, but I am surprized that was not seen in beta versions..
I inform phase one, but I am surprized that was not seen in beta versions..
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i am new to C1 but i also wondered that for my A6000 with the kit lens i have to select the lens manually.
C1 only says "manufacturer profile"and the raw files are not corrected.
for my canon files it just says "generic" and they are also uncorrected.
as i am new to C1 i thought maybe i need to check a setting so the lens profile is automatically detected.
how do i setup C1 that when i import RAW files into a catalog capture one applies the correct lens profile by default?
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[quote="Malte" wrote:
i am new to C1 but i also wondered that for my A6000 with the kit lens i have to select the lens manually.
C1 only says "manufacturer profile"and the raw files are not corrected.
for my canon files it just says "generic" and they are also uncorrected.
as i am new to C1 i thought maybe i need to check a setting so the lens profile s automatically detected.
With Sony lenses there may be two options.
The Sony provided corrections (Manufacturer Profile) or, for some lenses where Phase have made their own measurements and decided that they can offer a useful alternative to the manufacturer corrections, a separate profile.
You will likely find that in most cases the Manufacturer Profile will be the default that is automatically applied.
I would guess that in the case of Sony (and now Fuji as well) the manufacturer might prefer that situation. They have taken the trouble (or perhaps needed to) make the adjustment profile for the lens to work successfully at the price point at which it is sold.
How do you assess that the lens is uncorrected?
What is the lens?
Grant0 -
problem is they are not corrected.
they show the typical very heavy vignette of the kit lens.
https://i.imgur.com/ULyiYFZ.png
only when i manually select the PZ 16-50mm lens it is corrected.
https://i.imgur.com/fjkNC9I.png
same is true for my images shot with my canon cameras.
but there it is less obvious because the lenses are better. 😊
but still i only get a "generic" profile and not the correct lens profile.
https://i.imgur.com/BNkFw9o.png
https://i.imgur.com/S1WR9Ty.png
this is not normal behavior for C1 right?
i mean C1 should apply the correct profile if there is one?
also why are this "recommended profiles" when i shoot with a canon 70-200mm????
https://i.imgur.com/Tzo5As5.png0 -
[quote="Malte" wrote:
problem is they are not corrected.
they show the typical very heavy vignette of the kit lens.
https://i.imgur.com/ULyiYFZ.png
only when i manually select the PZ 16-50mm lens it is corrected.
Wide angle Zoom lenses tend, in my experience, to be corrected at the wide end and maybe not corrected at the longer end. It depends on how they have been designed and where the vendor decided to take a hit on distortion/colour castes/other correction factors (like vignettes).
C1 allows you to turn off corrections so you can see the differences between corrected and uncorrected. Indeed in the Lens tool it is possible to turn off default lens corrections so you may think it is worth checking that this has not happened somehow.
If a C1 created correction is available you can also apply that and then make it the default adjustment source file for that lens.
Or you might choose to use the C1 correction tool to define your own corrections and save that for future use or even as your preferred correction for that lens. However, with zoom lenses a "one correction suits all focal lengths and apertures" adjustment may not be a complete solution.
In terms of the corner vignetting it is reviewed as being quite severe for that lens and this review
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses ... 50/review/
seems to suggest that the in camera correction using manufacturer provided values (on a NEX body if I have read things correctly) does not get very close to eliminating the problem.
However I have no experience of Sony equipment so I would suggest that a Support Case to engage the Capture One Support Team may be helpful here.
HTH.
Grant0 -
Wide angle Zoom lenses tend, in my experience, to be corrected at the wide end and maybe not corrected at the longer end. It depends on how they have been designed and where the vendor decided to take a hit on distortion/colour castes/other correction factors (like vignettes).
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In terms of the corner vignetting it is reviewed as being quite severe for that lens and this review
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses ... 50/review/
seems to suggest that the in camera correction using manufacturer provided values (on a NEX body if I have read things correctly) does not get very close to eliminating the problem.
you write a lot i already know. 😊
no offense but i am well aware of the lens characteristics and how they are fixed.
but as the original poster wrote, C1 does not use an existing profile.
no matter if the image was shot at the wide end or the long end of the lens.
as you can see the "manufacturer profile" does NOTHING.
it shows the uncorrected raw.
in the other image i posted, i manually choose the correct profile and the lens was corrected as it should be.
for my canon 70-200mm f2.8 IS II a correct profile is also never applied (or my EF 16-35mm etc.).
no matter if the image is shoot at 70mm or 200mm.
yet C1 has a profile for that lens.
so it is not a sony camera issue.
what i want is that C1 applies a profile to the lens by default in case it has a profile for that lens.
like LR and any other raw converter i have tested does. 😉
but i searched for a while now in the settings and capture one does not want do that. ☹️C1 allows you to turn off corrections so you can see the differences between corrected and uncorrected. Indeed in the Lens tool it is possible to turn off default lens corrections so you may think it is worth checking that this has not happened somehow.
first thing i checked.
https://i.imgur.com/ygmTet8.png
"disable default lens correction" is not checked.0 -
[quote="Malte" wrote:
Wide angle Zoom lenses tend, in my experience, to be corrected at the wide end and maybe not corrected at the longer end. It depends on how they have been designed and where the vendor decided to take a hit on distortion/colour castes/other correction factors (like vignettes).
.....
In terms of the corner vignetting it is reviewed as being quite severe for that lens and this review
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses ... 50/review/
seems to suggest that the in camera correction using manufacturer provided values (on a NEX body if I have read things correctly) does not get very close to eliminating the problem.
you write a lot i already know. 😊
no offense but i am well aware of the lens characteristics and how they are fixed.
but as the original poster wrote, C1 does not use an existing profile.
no matter if the image was shot at the wide end or the long end of the lens.
as you can see the "manufacturer profile" does NOTHING.
it shows the uncorrected raw.
in the other image i posted, i manually choose the correct profile and the lens was corrected as it should be.
for my canon 70-200mm f2.8 IS II a correct profile is also never applied (or my EF 16-35mm etc.).
no matter if the image is shoot at 70mm or 200mm.
yet C1 has a profile for that lens.
so it is not a sony camera issue.
what i want is that C1 applies a profile to the lens by default in case it has a profile for that lens.
like LR and any other raw converter i have tested does. 😉
but i searched for a while now in the settings and capture one does not want do that. ☹️C1 allows you to turn off corrections so you can see the differences between corrected and uncorrected. Indeed in the Lens tool it is possible to turn off default lens corrections so you may think it is worth checking that this has not happened somehow.
first thing i checked.
https://i.imgur.com/ygmTet8.png
"disable default lens correction" is not checked.
You could have saved me a lot of time it you had explained what you already know and what you had already checked!
The only thing I can think of is that somehow you have a system with 'Generic' or 'Manufacturer Profile' set as the default for all lenses and the distortion vales set to 0.
Is it safe to assume you are working with RAW files?
I'm not sure that working in the dark here (i.e. no access to seeing 'live' what is happening on your system) and using that to come up with ideas) is helping you.
All I can say is that my Canon lenses on canon cameras are recognised and adjustments applied by default as expected.
I would suggest that your best option it to created a Support Case and get some help from the Support Team. They may (or may not) have other reports of the same or similar problems in their records.
HTH.
Grant0 -
You could have saved me a lot of time it you had explained what you already know and what you had already checked!
but a lecture about wideangle lenses and lens correction or how well the correction works on some sony lenses would not solve the problem anyway. 😉
i think i described the problem pretty well.Is it safe to assume you are working with RAW files?
yes i have mentioned that a few times. 😉I'm not sure that working in the dark here (i.e. no access to seeing 'live' what is happening on your system) and using that to come up with ideas) is helping you.
as described.
a "generic" profile is assigned to my canon raw files.
a "manufacturer profile" is assigned to my sony raw files.
both profiles basically do nothing (as seen in the above screenshots from the sony camera) to actually correct the lenses.I would suggest that your best option it to created a Support Case and get some help from the Support Team. They may (or may not) have other reports of the same or similar problems in their records
yeah i guess i will do that.
i asked in a different forum and with the OP here, there are 5 other person with this issue.0 -
Well, it is, I think, sensible to cover all the points that one can think of when discussing this sort of problem with a view to trying to help. Also to attempt to check that no unexpected anomaly (like a non-RAW file) has crept in by accident.
At least I have discovered what you are already familiar with. Would be quicker in a phone call, probably, but that is hardly an option here.
You appear to be quite well 'clued up'. That is not always the case even if people appear to understand what they are writing about.
Never mind.
Hopefully the Support Team will be well placed to discuss and resolve your problem if others have already reported it.
Grant0 -
support phase One answered:
"Thanks.
This has been forwarded to R&D to implement the functionality.
Currently it is unsupported."
I'm working with Z7 and FTZ, that's perhaps why..0
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