How does successive sharpening work in Capture One?
Capture One 6 - User Guide, ver. 6.1, Page 49, says:
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The effects of sharpening and noise reduction are shown as they appear on the final image that is displayed
in the Viewer.
Try this workflow if you are not experienced in applying Sharpening to an image:
- First, sharpen the fine detail in the image. Use the capture or raw pre-sharpening setting. (In the Manage Preset menu)
- Secondly, a more aggressive sharpening affect can be used but this should be applied after the image has been sized according to desired printing dimensions.
I make a pre-sharpening according to item 1.
The adjustment is now available from the Details list in the Adjustment Clipboard, should I want to apply it to other similar images.
Then I make some further editing, and finally crop the image for output, e.g. for printing.
As my final adjustment I add a more “aggressive†output sharpening, according to item 2 above.
Now, when I search in the Adjustment Clipboard for the first sharpen adjustment, I still find only one entry for each of the parameters Sharpening Amount, - Radius and - Threshold.
Where can I find my first sharpening (or the second)?
What if I planned only to apply the first sharpening to another image?
(I still have only one Adjustment list for the image file.)
Further, how has C1 managed the two incidents of sharpen.
Will they be “baked†into the output one by one – which was the idea – or will they be applied as a sum of the two settings?
In my understanding the two ways are not leading to the same resulting sharpen effect.
I see the combined pre- and output sharpening adjustments as a parallel to the painting of a surface with a primer and, maybe one hour later, adding of a finish-layer. I can’t mix the two components in the same can and get an identical result in one painting.
Or..?
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The effects of sharpening and noise reduction are shown as they appear on the final image that is displayed
in the Viewer.
Try this workflow if you are not experienced in applying Sharpening to an image:
- First, sharpen the fine detail in the image. Use the capture or raw pre-sharpening setting. (In the Manage Preset menu)
- Secondly, a more aggressive sharpening affect can be used but this should be applied after the image has been sized according to desired printing dimensions.
I make a pre-sharpening according to item 1.
The adjustment is now available from the Details list in the Adjustment Clipboard, should I want to apply it to other similar images.
Then I make some further editing, and finally crop the image for output, e.g. for printing.
As my final adjustment I add a more “aggressive†output sharpening, according to item 2 above.
Now, when I search in the Adjustment Clipboard for the first sharpen adjustment, I still find only one entry for each of the parameters Sharpening Amount, - Radius and - Threshold.
Where can I find my first sharpening (or the second)?
What if I planned only to apply the first sharpening to another image?
(I still have only one Adjustment list for the image file.)
Further, how has C1 managed the two incidents of sharpen.
Will they be “baked†into the output one by one – which was the idea – or will they be applied as a sum of the two settings?
In my understanding the two ways are not leading to the same resulting sharpen effect.
I see the combined pre- and output sharpening adjustments as a parallel to the painting of a surface with a primer and, maybe one hour later, adding of a finish-layer. I can’t mix the two components in the same can and get an identical result in one painting.
Or..?
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Hi there,
CaptureOne only supports one step of sharpening per image at a time. To paraphrase the instructions you’ve posted:- When first developing/editing your RAW file, use capture pre-sharpening to bring out fine detail.
- Export RAW image to dimensions and file format you need later. Say, TIFF 16 Bit Adobe RGB 10x13" for a fine-art print.
- Open this exported image – the one with the final dimensions you need – in CaptureOne.
- Now add the more aggressive sharpening to this file, according to what medium the file is for. In my example, abovementioned TIFF 16 Bit Adobe RGB 10x13" photo is output-sharpened to suit your printing/publishing needs.
- Export this image again when needed in third-party software, or use this image for directly printing from CaptureOne.
Personally, I do steps 3-5 in the application I use for printing or web publishing and don’t open the exported, pre-sharpened and resized file in CaptureOne again. Depending on your archival requirements, or job requirements, your mileage may vary.
C1’s approach is different from, say, Lightroom’s which offers both capture sharpening and output sharpening in one go. Alas, output sharpening is relegated to three presets per media type with no chance to fine-tune according to need. So many of my friends using Lightroom still end up exporting the capture-sharpened and resized image, then add selective sharpening and output sharpening in Nik Define or Photoshop.
Hope this helps,
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Hi Sascha,
Your recipe is mine too, i.e. after your item 1. (inclusive the pre-sharpening in C1), I work on a 16 bit TIFF in Photoshop and make my output-sharpening from Nik or InFocus plug-ins.
I just wanted to be sure, if C1 supported more than one step of sharpening. In my opinion the “- Second…†clause from the latest User Guide implies this.
I looked into Lightroom 3.5 earlier this week. In many ways a charming piece of software, but not a real treat to my combination of C1 and Photoshop plus dedicated plug-ins. Bridge is managing my portfolio fairly decent.
Thank you for clearing this up.0 -
[quote="nggalai" wrote:
..... To paraphrase the instructions you’ve posted:- When first developing/editing your RAW file, use capture pre-sharpening to bring out fine detail.
- Export RAW image to dimensions and file format you need later. Say, TIFF 16 Bit Adobe RGB 10x13" for a fine-art print.
- Open this exported image – the one with the final dimensions you need – in CaptureOne.
- Now add the more aggressive sharpening to this file, according to what medium the file is for. In my example, abovementioned TIFF 16 Bit Adobe RGB 10x13" photo is output-sharpened to suit your printing/publishing needs.
- Export this image again when needed in third-party software, or use this image for directly printing from CaptureOne.
Personally, I do steps 3-5 in the application I use for printing or web publishing and don’t open the exported, pre-sharpened and resized file in CaptureOne again. Depending on your archival requirements, or job requirements, your mileage may vary.
...
Hope this helps,
-Sascha
Sasha,
A great explanation and described workflow.
I'm sure a lot of us do it this way - I know I do.
Sometimes I wish I had control of a 2nd output sharpening, other times not.
In the end, I like to see the final output file from CO, and sharpen again before I print or show it.
Many times, this is because I don't care for CO's noise reduction, and I will take it into PSE and use a Topaz deNoise plus sharpening on the final image to be printed.0
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