New Student of C1 LE Software (need simple answers)

C1 Learner

• 19. Februar 2005 16:01

Dear all C1 users,

I am a first time user of C1 LE V3.6 software and need some simple answers. After visiting this forum, I was a little disheartened to see so many bugs issues and wondered if I should have just stick to Photoshop Camera Raw instead. My questions are:

(1) As I am a Canon 300D, 10D and G5 owner, can I safely start processing my Raw files from all 3 cameras? Or should I temporarily hold back till a maintenance release is made available?

(2) Between 10D and 300D, which one has more severe bugs problems in C1 LE V3.6? I will use whichever camera I own which C1 LE V3.6 can safely handle at this point in time.

(3) I have heard a great deal about Capture Ones's superior quality over other brands. What are the visible differences/improvements that I can expect to see compared to say Adobe Camera Raw? I hope I will be seeing some real improvements after paying for this.

Kindly assist me with my questions above, I am sure they are not difficult ones for many of you who are experienced users.

Thank you,
C1 Learner

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  Derekasaurus Rex

  • 20. Februar 2005 20:15

  I think the best way to make sure conversions work to your satisfaction with all of your cameras is to try the demo. Two weeks should be enough to see if any of the bugs affect you seriously.
  
  As for the superior quality of C1, your mileage will vary. After all, there are a lot of happy photographers using ACR, BreezeBrowser, Bibble, DPP, etc. And there is a new kid on the block, RawShooter, that looks very promising, though it's a very early release. Anyway, I find that C1 produces fantastic, accurate colors, even with the stock profiles. I can get similar results using other converters, but it takes a lot more work. It does a great job with my Canon D60, 10D, and 1D Mark II files.
  
  In terms of image quality I think C1's biggest weakness is highlight recovery (Photoshop's ACR seems to recover more color information from blown highlights), and I'm frustrated by C1's inability to disable noise reduction entirely, which I find can cause artifacts even at the lowest setting. You may want to check out this page for a good comparison of RAW converters.

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  Arizona Bill

  • 21. Februar 2005 21:24

  [quote="C1 Learner" wrote:
  (1) As I am a Canon 300D, 10D and G5 owner, can I safely start processing my Raw files from all 3 cameras? Or should I temporarily hold back till a maintenance release is made available?
  
  (2) Between 10D and 300D, which one has more severe bugs problems in C1 LE V3.6? I will use whichever camera I own which C1 LE V3.6 can safely handle at this point in time.
  
  (3) I have heard a great deal about Capture Ones's superior quality over other brands. What are the visible differences/improvements that I can expect to see compared to say Adobe Camera Raw? I hope I will be seeing some real improvements after paying for this.
  
  Kindly assist me with my questions above, I am sure they are not difficult ones for many of you who are experienced users.
  
  Thank you,
  C1 Learner

  
  1) Yes, you can start now. I wouldn't wait. The bug list is long but for most new users there are no show-stoppers.
  
  2) Personally I don't think there are "severe bug" problems with either camera you mention, so go with either one. Many of the bugs affect users migrating older .work files from 3.5.2 to 3.6 and that is not a problem for you as a new user. I switched from 3.5.2 to 3.6 with a 10D, two 1D Mark II's and a 1Ds and except for a couple of things I consider minor (like orphaned .trash files) 3.6 works fine.
  
  3) "What are the visible differences/improvements that I can expect to see compared to say Adobe Camera Raw?" For me there are three things ... I like the workflow better because I don't have to open a new window for each image, like with ACR, and it's easier to edit a large # of files. Also at default settings it's easier for me to get more pleasing colors with C1. Finally, if you blow the images up to say 400% you'll see cleaner demosaicing with C1 than with DPP or ACR. This is important if you are making big enlargements or interpolating upwards. Try it and see if you feel these are worth paying the extra $$, if not stick with ACR.
  
  Bill

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