Support for Leica lenses?
One of the things that keeps me on Lightroom is that it has a comprehensive set of lens profiles (much broader than Capture One or even DXO). The upright correction tool in Lightroom is pretty magical for a 1-4 click processor. Manual keystoning is quite labour intensive by comparison.
A good summer project for a Phase One intern would be to generate profiles for the current range of Leica lenses; these would also be welcome by your Sony customers as the new A7rII seems to play better with them than earlier models.
As a stop-gap, the ability to import / use Lightroom / ACR lens profiles would be better than nothing.
A good summer project for a Phase One intern would be to generate profiles for the current range of Leica lenses; these would also be welcome by your Sony customers as the new A7rII seems to play better with them than earlier models.
As a stop-gap, the ability to import / use Lightroom / ACR lens profiles would be better than nothing.
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If we were provided with the lenses, then no problem 😊 We are updating the lens database frquently, however, it is difficult to get all lenses on the market (and olders ones) from their respective vendors.
But rest assured that we are actively expanding the lens-database and will continue to do so in the future.0 -
Perhaps you could just rent them? The database is quite limited at present. 0 -
[quote="NN8924221" wrote:
Perhaps you could just rent them? The database is quite limited at present.
We have considered renting, however, rental units are usually quite beat-up. We do not want to base a profile on something that have seen better days.
Also, rental houses usually only have the lastest and greatest pro lenses, not all the older/consumer lenses.0 -
Hmmm. Sounds like you need to consider a better rental house. If you look at lensrentals.com/blog, they test their lenses with very sophisticated equipment.
In the case of Leica lenses, you could just talk to Leica or use their published distortion /vignetting data. Lens correction is a key competitive feature for processing software.
Alternatively, you could just read the Adobe data, as other raw processing software does.
Relying on people sending you lenses or buying them yourselves, does not sound like a strategy that is going to produce results soon.0 -
[quote="NN8924221" wrote:
Hmmm. Sounds like you need to consider a better rental house. If you look at lensrentals.com/blog, they test their lenses with very sophisticated equipment.
In the case of Leica lenses, you could just talk to Leica or use their published distortion /vignetting data. Lens correction is a key competitive feature for processing software.
Alternatively, you could just read the Adobe data, as other raw processing software does.
Relying on people sending you lenses or buying them yourselves, does not sound like a strategy that is going to produce results soon.
Interesting ideas but I think you are probably missing a full understanding of the Phase One approach to Camera Manufacturing and Image Processing.
Whether you think the approach is advisable or not is a different matter.
I would hazard a guess that Phase One are well aware of perceived market requirements and the options you propose.
I note that Lens Rentals do not ship to outside the USA. That is indicative of some of the challenges to be found in the lens rental market, especially for international shipping and returns. Also, as Christian mentioned, a rental source is unlikely to be able to assist where older lenses are concerned. And I guess most of us own some favourite older lenses that are in great need of help from some correction data .... but are unlikely to get it with any application.
Just my opinion of course.
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[quote="NN8924221" wrote:
Hmmm. Sounds like you need to consider a better rental house. If you look at lensrentals.com/blog, they test their lenses with very sophisticated equipment.
And they're also located in the US. You do realise that Phase One isn't - don't you?0 -
Yes, I am aware of that. I am sure that lens rentals is not unique in its approach.
Anyway, I take from this that expanding the lens profile correction capabilities of C1 is not a priority for P1 (which is their legitimate choice, of course).0 -
[quote="NN8924221" wrote:
Yes, I am aware of that. I am sure that lens rentals is not unique in its approach.
Anyway, I take from this that expanding the lens profile correction capabilities of C1 is not a priority for P1 (which is their legitimate choice, of course).
Well I think comments in other threads show a strong commitment to creating a comprehensive lens database but it has to be demand (or supply) driven. If the Phase approach was to use data that was already available I'm pretty sure that many more lenses would be "supported".
How good the support would be, in Phase terms, is a matter for speculation.
Likewise how much of an adjustment of required in the mass market (or even the Pro market) for an image to be acceptable is also likely a matter for speculation.
One might fully understand that there is a clear need for some consumer level lenses, especially in the mirrorless and "pocketable" markets to be supported because their lenses have been designed with digital correction as part of the output.
At the top end of the perceived market It should be a different matter.
IMO.
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[quote="NN8924221" wrote:
Hmmm. Sounds like you need to consider a better rental house. If you look at lensrentals.com/blog, they test their lenses with very sophisticated equipment.
In the case of Leica lenses, you could just talk to Leica or use their published distortion /vignetting data. Lens correction is a key competitive feature for processing software.
Alternatively, you could just read the Adobe data, as other raw processing software does.
Relying on people sending you lenses or buying them yourselves, does not sound like a strategy that is going to produce results soon.
We already read the built-in distortion models in the raw files. However analysis show that these models are not always precise enough. If you input 100% correction, usually you would get 80%. The profiles we develop in-house will give you full and correct correction at 100%.
Currently we are primarily working closely with a lot of the major vendors, however their inventory are also limited, especially when is comes to old lenses or exotics. This is why we also ask our users.0
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