Canon 6D images super saturated
Hi- using CO 7.1.4 on OSX 10.6.8.
Canon 6D files come in super saturated, no way to make them appear like those done in Adobe Camera RAW, or the Canon software. Is this just the way it is?
Canon 6D files come in super saturated, no way to make them appear like those done in Adobe Camera RAW, or the Canon software. Is this just the way it is?
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No, it should not. Question is what is the cause?
Could you post link to a raw file?
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Can you tell us more details about your workflow and profiles in use?0 -
There is only one Canon 6D profile for me to choose from in the menu pull down. I can try to post a file at another time. Is it wonky because I am using my trial period?
I'm on OSX 10.6.8. My computer will not upgrade any further. It's one of the earlier Intel Macs. CO always worked fine previously.0 -
[quote="John68" wrote:
There is only one Canon 6D profile for me to choose from in the menu pull down. I can try to post a file at another time. Is it wonky because I am using my trial period?
I'm on OSX 10.6.8. My computer will not upgrade any further. It's one of the earlier Intel Macs. CO always worked fine previously.
The trial period should be fully functional.
The camera profile is only the starting point for what you may see on the screen. The Proof Profile, any edits that have been applied, perhaps as a default 'style' or some other setting you may have applied without really knowing (it can happen to all of us from time to time) or maybe something in the Process settings for the active Recipe could be influencing the results.
Or there may be other reasons ...
That is why Paul wrote about the need to know what settings you are using.
I don't on a 6D but I have experimented with 6D generated RAW files using Capture One 7 on a Windows PC and they were certainly not super saturated. I hope this gives you some hope for identifying the reason why you are seeing what you are seeing.
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I did check all user adjustable sliders, presets, AFAIK, everything is at the null or default position.
I brought in a RAW file from my old Canon 1Ds. It views and processes properly, looks pretty much the same as a tiff file processed with default settings in Adobe ACR.
So it appears to be confined the Canon 6D files,(which view and process as expected in ACR). However, viewing and processing in CO produces excessive red intensity, even when grey balanced.
I'll get a fresh setup going with grey cards with both cameras and both softwares. I'll see if I still have my trusty 'ol MacBeth color checker and place it in the shot as well. It may take a few days for me to get to this.0 -
Super Saturated?
When comparing the Adobe Standard (default for Adobe Camera RAW) then I suppose your right. However you need to keep in mind that your Camera is a Canon Camera shooting a Canon Color Space and not shooting Adobe Standard. As such, changing ACR Profiles can actually show you an image closer to what your camera captured, which is nearly identical to what Capture One is showing you.
This is all subjective of course and you're welcome to apply a generic profile to your images in Capture One but when you've paid $1,899.00 for the Canon 6D, why would you want to use a generic profile that doesn't consideration for what your camera has actually captured?
The custom made Profile In Capture One is closer to what Adobe called "Camera Standard" which reflects the preview you see on your LCD and the in camera processed JPEG. The thought process behind such a profile is "What you see is what you get" so the images you've evaluated while shooting, on the back of the screen, match closer to what you get in the software.
Ultimately if you do not like the color render of the 6D RAW in Capture One you can always change the ICC.
See below;
Capture One
http://i42.tinypic.com/t6ars4.png
ACR Default
http://i41.tinypic.com/2n8y87n.png
ACR "Camera Standard"
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Drew, I do a lot of interiors and use a swatch board of samples to edit the photos with. I shot the swatch board, and processed the file in ACR-AdobeStandard, ACR-CameraStandard, DPP-Neutral, and CO. All were only click grey balanced.
The ACR-AdobeSandard is what the swatch board really looks like. I've been doing it that way for as long as I've had this account. DPP-Neutral is second place, however looks a bit deeper with red emphasis. (I've noticed that most files seem to exaggerate the reds the deeper they go, so what is going on in DPP makes sense.)
ACR-CameraStandard and CO appear similar as you mentioned in your post, but neither reflect what the swatch board really looks like. Looks way too rich, with the reds excessive.
http://tinyurl.com/ngq6avk
http://tinyurl.com/nbhx7ll
Also, why do the various processors create differing sizes of final output TIFFs, with CO making the smallest file?0 -
Here's the ACR-AdobeStandard and CO side by side for easier comparison:
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[quote="John68" wrote:
...why do the various processors create differing sizes of final output TIFFs, with CO making the smallest file?
Algorithms for processing, data interpretation and compression.
However in this case it is likely just due to the Lens Profile tool being on and cropping data.
Regarding the Image Color Reproduction, create a Support Case and provide a RAW of something with known values. Something like a gretagmacbeth color chart.
We can then compare that against our own to see what may be causing the difference.0
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