Fill Mask not opaque?
I've been using the Fill Mask function for a while and am frustrated. Regardless of the brush opacity I set when I draw the outline, the automagically filled portions are always filled to a value less than totally opaque. I haven't been able to find a way to ensure that the filled section is either totally opaque or set to some other value that I control—it just seems to want to use a default setting that's not obvious to me.
Does someone know of a way to control this? Or do I need to file a support request?
Thanks.
Does someone know of a way to control this? Or do I need to file a support request?
Thanks.
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Could it be a bug with OpenCL? Do you get the same behavior if you switch OpenCL to "Never"? 0 -
Thank you for the suggestion! I just switch OpenCL from Auto to Off for both display and processing and the problem went away. I didn't notice a performance hit on the images I tried, but if C1 starts feeling more sluggish, I'll experiment with leaving one or the other set to Auto. 0 -
David Grover encountered this problem during a recent webinar, and reacted with surprise. The solution wasn't obvious to him (at the time, at least) but I don't recall what (if anything) he did about it. 0 -
I can't seem to reproduce your error.
Can you upload a screenshot of your mask, so I can see in more detail?0 -
I may understand why you couldn't reproduce the problem. It seems to be related to mask complexity. Assuming my upload attempt works, I just did 3 experiments:
1. I turned OpenCL to Auto, relaunched C1 and then drew a quick mask with only a few strokes. This time AutoFill worked properly and I thought I was crazy.
2. Remembering that my problems were all with masks made from many brush and eraser strokes, I repeated the experiment with the same image, this time using many strokes. This time AutoFill filled at less than 100% opacity, which is what I've ben seeing.
3. I turned OpenCL off, relaunched C1 and then drew a complex mask on the same image and used AutoFill. The results were perfect: 100% opacity.
I have an image that combines screenshots of all images, properly labeled into a single JPEG. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to include it in a reply. I tried clicking the "Img" button and dragging the image between the resulting indicators, but only the pathname from my Mac got included. How can I upload an image for you? I'll also try filing a support request.0 -
This seems to be a logic problem. I'am really not sure, whether this is a bug or a feature. The fillmask is indeed filled with that actual adjusted opacity. That sounds logic.
The problem appears, when I start to invert this mask (lets say 60%). Because of that not-100%-filling the old (1st) place remain filled (I guess with 40%). All other areas are filled with 60%. This is probably logic, but not useful.
I would like to have no masking in that 1st place and the other part should masked with the actual adjusted opacity.
To avoid this feature I have to fill the 1st place with 100%. The inversion brings me 0% and 100%. But sometimes I just copied this mask from another layer with other purposes. Then I have to paint the mask again til 100%.
(Same problem with inverting "mask from color").
This is what David encountered during the webinar. I don't use CL so far and had the same issue with Win.0 -
At first I also thought that perhaps I had inadvertently set my brush opacity to less than 100%. But that's not the case: With the brush set to 100%, the autofill is still translucent.
I just filed a support case (Christian, it's #219066) that includes screen shots. On my machines, it definitely seems related somehow to mask complexity. If my mask has more than a few strokes and OpenCL is "Auto", the fill is translucent. If the mask has just a few strokes and OpenCL is "Auto", the fill is always opaque. If OpenCL is set to "Never", the fill is always opaque regardless of mask opacity if I have the brush opacity set to 100%.0 -
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I may understand why you couldn't reproduce the problem. It seems to be related to mask complexity. Assuming my upload attempt works, I just did 3 experiments:
1. I turned OpenCL to Auto, relaunched C1 and then drew a quick mask with only a few strokes. This time AutoFill worked properly and I thought I was crazy.
2. Remembering that my problems were all with masks made from many brush and eraser strokes, I repeated the experiment with the same image, this time using many strokes. This time AutoFill filled at less than 100% opacity, which is what I've ben seeing.
3. I turned OpenCL off, relaunched C1 and then drew a complex mask on the same image and used AutoFill. The results were perfect: 100% opacity.
I have an image that combines screenshots of all images, properly labeled into a single JPEG. Unfortunately I can't figure out how to include it in a reply. I tried clicking the "Img" button and dragging the image between the resulting indicators, but only the pathname from my Mac got included. How can I upload an image for you? I'll also try filing a support request.
Can you elaborate on how your complex mask looked like ?0 -
As I mentioned, please look at Case #219066, which I submitted an hour or so ago. My submission includes screenshots of all three cases I mentioned: OpenCL "Auto" complex mask, "Auto" simple mask, and "Never" with a complex mask. The JPEG attachments show pairs: first the mask and then the autofill result. 0 -
#219066 is not a CO case, so it is not the right number. Can you find the right number for me ? 0 -
Sorry; the Case ID is 219065 (copied from the filing). 0 -
Just to get closure on this, I've heard back from Tech Support and so far my results agree with theirs.
It seems that C1's Autofill opacity when dealing with a mask made from multiple brush strokes is based on the minimum overlap found between adjacent strokes. So, for example, if my brush is set to 100% opacity and I happen to overlap two strokes only half-way (result: part of the overlap has something less than 100% opacity), then C1 will fill using that lower Opacity. This isn't documented anywhere I've found.
Theory: With OpenCL turned off, mask drawing is slower and this might improve the odds of getting total overlap.
At any rate, today I tried a couple of images with OpenCL turned on, magnification at 100%, and being extremely careful to totally overlap brush stroke junctions. The Autofill results were fine. I'll continue trying this, but it seems like one just needs to be extremely careful to make a multi-stroke mask as continuous as a single-stroke mask.0
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