Aperture to COP nightmare
I have found the conversion from Aperture to COP to be really confusing for the organization of my images.
One problem are that the UI metaphors are different. Folders seem to be more top level elements in COP rather than simple, visual, metaphorically correct places to organize whatever. Like, actual folders.
Anyhow, I am getting a headache trying to clean up the mess the conversion did AND understand what is what.
Is there a simple, VISUAL guide to the differences between how COP organizes and Aperture organizes and stores files?
If X was and did Z in Aperture (with pictures of the icons) then in COP, Y does the same thing but B does Z (with pictures of the icons).
One problem are that the UI metaphors are different. Folders seem to be more top level elements in COP rather than simple, visual, metaphorically correct places to organize whatever. Like, actual folders.
Anyhow, I am getting a headache trying to clean up the mess the conversion did AND understand what is what.
Is there a simple, VISUAL guide to the differences between how COP organizes and Aperture organizes and stores files?
If X was and did Z in Aperture (with pictures of the icons) then in COP, Y does the same thing but B does Z (with pictures of the icons).
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It can be frustrating. If you want to share screen shots of your Aperture Library; and then the COP library, I will be happy to help you.
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Sensai
Jon is absolutely right! I have posted several times here about how I successfully (as far as I am concerned) made the transition. However "successfully" translates as "I was happy with" and not as "it worked perfectly in all regards".
None of the alternatives that I explored provided a reliable, easy and perfect transition. However, for me, CaptureOne was by far the best. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable - if you switch, be prepared to do some work on your old library and to learn different ways of editing and cataloguing. As long as the transition preserves your original images and file structure (Projects and Albums) all (!) it takes is a bit of time and patience.
The only absolute advice I can offer is that moving everything as a whole is not a good idea - break it into handy bit size chunks!0 -
And that is the reason why I continue to use Aperture for DAM purposes... All the rest I do with Capture One and Affinity... Its a harder work process but suits my needs UNTIL such time either Capture One upgrades its DAM features or a better mouse trap rolls out... 🤓 😕 0 -
[quote="Marc PK" wrote:
And that is the reason why I continue to use Aperture for DAM purposes... All the rest I do with Capture One and Affinity... Its a harder work process but suits my needs UNTIL such time either Capture One upgrades its DAM features or a better mouse trap rolls out... 🤓 😕
Hi Marc, how do you move your images between C1 and Aperture, and how do you handle editing history?0 -
I import the RAW files into C1, work on them and then export them as JPGS into Aperture where I add all my keywords in a structured format as well as geotags (the latter come automatically from C1 as they are in the RAW data). Obviously, I don't "work" the JPGS once in Aperture, and the end product is just as beautiful as in C1. I can then use Aperture's stunning DAM and slide show viewer (linked to iTunes); I am a heavy user of this feature as I regularly have slide shows running on a big screen when I have friends at home. I couldn't answer you before as I was giving a slide show of hundreds of shots I took this week during a play to the actors over dinner - they loved it ! 0 -
Marc
That makes a lot of sense and is close to what my "life after Aperture" plan was, but as time went on it seemed more and more like the plan was not so much life after Aperture but rather life in Aperture's twilight years. It is increasingly clear that it's when, not if, the day will come when Aperture will not run in OS X. That being so, the longer the delay in moving to another DAM, the more material there will be to move. There's no absolute right or wrong in this but I eventually made the decision to go all-in on CaptureOne (plus Affinity Photo) and have not regretted it.0 -
[quote="Sensel" wrote:
I have found the conversion from Aperture to COP to be really confusing for the organization of my images.
Have you already checked this Webinar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XWU9WV ... 9pZu_X_vLJ
First of all, don't expect that C1P - in its current state - will replicate 100% what you could do in Aperture when it comes to DAM. Not possible. It's also not possible with other tools like LR either. Aperture was/is king of the hill when it comes to pure DAM. The folks at Apple were the only ones who figured out how to leverage the power of a SQL database to the max. Theres a whole bunch of small details that would exemplify this, but lets not waste our time here.
It IS possible to get along with the C1P DAM, if you change some of your past behavior and forget about a few neat little things you had in AP. Not everything that happens in C1P makes sense. But don't let this get in your way. You will scratch your head multiple times clicking through your catalog in C1P but I can assure you: it's most likely not your fault or misunderstanding. If something does not behave like you expected it, the more likely explanation is just a lazy implementation by Phase One.
My point is: there is no magic A = B translation table for the Aperture DAM to C1P's DAM, because C1P is right now at about 60-70% of Apertures functionality.0 -
Everybody should watch that video. 0 -
In it, I also discovered/realized that there are two kinds of folder icons (and folders) in COP. One looks like a folder icon but, white and bigger. They only appear in the Folders section to show the Folders Collections on drives.
The other is the more often see, is just an outline, and is called a Group.
The problem with this is that, since both are folder icons, with little difference and two names, it confuses the hell out of users… A UI flub.0
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