Request for Advise from Media Pro Newbie
Hi All,
I am new user to Capture One after moving to it from Aperture 3. I will be honest, I loved Aperture 3 but after a trial of Capture One I am blown away by the image output quality and have decided to make the leap across and possible up 😊 . I have edited some recent work and I can say I am so much happier with the edit result.
What I am trying to work out is the cataloging/organising opportunities for the Phase One software and I am a little confused over the use/purpose of Media Pro, it seems an interesting piece of software, but I am yet to understand via the tutorials what its real value is. I am a little biased as Aperture 3 has an awesome and flexible way of managing files within it's Library (Catalog), so I am giving myself time to learn and think about Capture One's system for doing this.
I am still playing around with Capture One and have not yet settled on whether I prefer Sessions or Catalog, but I think the Catalog option is as close to what I am used. BUT, I do not want to hamstring myself by what I am used to, and this is an opportunity to look at alternatives and learn new things.
Please can users of Media Pro and Capture One give me their opinions on it, and what they do for their cataloging so I can start to get a feel of it. I am going to take a trial of Media Pro and have a play for myself, but I am keen to get the views of experienced users.
Mostly what I shoot is:
Client Portraits (What you would consider standard location and studio portraits)
Families (portraits, documentary of a day etc)
Family (My Own, General Life Goings on)
Personal Project which can be anything I fancy, i.e Street, Portraits, Photo Story etc.
Oh, and I also shoot a mixture of Film and Digital and like to keep both sets of images organised in the same software.
I have been trying to finish off this post as to what I like to do in terms of organising my work, but I don't want to dictate my Capture One organisation by what I have done in the past, I want to keep an open mind, therefore I am really keen to hear your thoughts of Media Pro and Capture One. It just needs to be a simple way of easily accessing images (once finished editing) organised in a logical way to find them again in the future.
Thanking you in advance for reading and taking the time to answer.
Regards
Matt
I am new user to Capture One after moving to it from Aperture 3. I will be honest, I loved Aperture 3 but after a trial of Capture One I am blown away by the image output quality and have decided to make the leap across and possible up 😊 . I have edited some recent work and I can say I am so much happier with the edit result.
What I am trying to work out is the cataloging/organising opportunities for the Phase One software and I am a little confused over the use/purpose of Media Pro, it seems an interesting piece of software, but I am yet to understand via the tutorials what its real value is. I am a little biased as Aperture 3 has an awesome and flexible way of managing files within it's Library (Catalog), so I am giving myself time to learn and think about Capture One's system for doing this.
I am still playing around with Capture One and have not yet settled on whether I prefer Sessions or Catalog, but I think the Catalog option is as close to what I am used. BUT, I do not want to hamstring myself by what I am used to, and this is an opportunity to look at alternatives and learn new things.
Please can users of Media Pro and Capture One give me their opinions on it, and what they do for their cataloging so I can start to get a feel of it. I am going to take a trial of Media Pro and have a play for myself, but I am keen to get the views of experienced users.
Mostly what I shoot is:
Client Portraits (What you would consider standard location and studio portraits)
Families (portraits, documentary of a day etc)
Family (My Own, General Life Goings on)
Personal Project which can be anything I fancy, i.e Street, Portraits, Photo Story etc.
Oh, and I also shoot a mixture of Film and Digital and like to keep both sets of images organised in the same software.
I have been trying to finish off this post as to what I like to do in terms of organising my work, but I don't want to dictate my Capture One organisation by what I have done in the past, I want to keep an open mind, therefore I am really keen to hear your thoughts of Media Pro and Capture One. It just needs to be a simple way of easily accessing images (once finished editing) organised in a logical way to find them again in the future.
Thanking you in advance for reading and taking the time to answer.
Regards
Matt
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I loved the program for it's organisation strength but it's not developed anymore. Phase One bought it from Microsoft but the integration with Capture One is not without caveats. I think both programs do have their own, separate, userbase.
I would not invest in Media Pro anymore as it is abandoned by PhaseOne. Browse through some postings here and you will see.0 -
[quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
I loved the program for it's organisation strength but it's not developed anymore. Phase One bought it from Microsoft but the integration with Capture One is not without caveats. I think both programs do have their own, separate, userbase.
I would not invest in Media Pro anymore as it is abandoned by PhaseOne. Browse through some postings here and you will see.
Hi rmoorlag,
Thank you for your post.
That is a shame, I was hoping MP would be a great alternative to the in catalog management style like LR does. Personal I am not a fan of it as it made my LR catalog messy and way to full of folders and albums which I think turns it into a very ugly and unwheldy UI. That is why I primarily used Aperture 3, which did have a logical and clean UI, shame the raw converter has fallen so far behind its competitors. But, I suppose LR is what 90% of the photo world are using so why not mirror that........because there are better options in my mind if someone put the time and creativity into a standalone piece of software that talked to your raw editior.
I like to manage my files in the Mac finder not in a catalog, so a great viewer and organiser would be perfect rather than having to sort through folders on a my HD etc.
I have had a quick look through the Phase One forum and MP Thread and it seems there is quite a mixed bag of opinions about MP
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Indeed, it's a pity.
When PhaseOne aquired Expression Media from Microsoft and renamed it to MediaPro, i hoped for a serious approach.
After all, Phase One does have a good reputation in photo world.
In the Microsoft period i considered an alternative DAM because they did about the same then what Phase One is doing now; abandoned it. But when Phase One came in, i hoped for the better.
Now, i'm orientating on LR. It's tough indeed but it has al lot to give. And adobe is continuously developing it to a higher level. I'm working on a migration plan now....0 -
[quote="rmoorlag" wrote:
Indeed, it's a pity.
When PhaseOne aquired Expression Media from Microsoft and renamed it to MediaPro, i hoped for a serious approach.
After all, Phase One does have a good reputation in photo world.
In the Microsoft period i considered an alternative DAM because they did about the same then what Phase One is doing now; abandoned it. But when Phase One came in, i hoped for the better.
Now, i'm orientating on LR. It's tough indeed but it has al lot to give. And adobe is continuously developing it to a higher level. I'm working on a migration plan now....
So are you leaving C1 completely in preference to LR, or just moving part of your workflow and sticking with C1 as your raw converter?0 -
So are you leaving C1 completely in preference to LR, or just moving part of your workflow and sticking with C1 as your raw converter?
Completely moving over to Adobe. I want an integrated workflow.0 -
Hi
I am in a very similar position to you, although I have been flirting with C1 for far longer. I too prefer C1 for developing images. I just find it quicker and easier for about 99% of them.
I think the first question is whether you really need/want an integrated DAM/developer for workflow reasons. If you do, you have a number of options so far as I can see:
1. Maintain your library in Aperture and send selected images to C1 using the Catapult plugin. Reimport the C1 developed image into your Aperture library using Catapult. It works pretty well.
2. Use the C1 catalogue system. I run a shadow catalogue to see how it does. It seems OK for my uses (and it is definitely a lot more stable now than it was when it first came out). Its weakness is in the application of metadata (particularly hierarchical keywords), where Aperture (and MP if you go for a separate DAM) is better.
3. Abandon Aperture and C1 and move to LR. It seems an unnecessarily nuclear option to me, but lots of people find that it suits them.
If you want a separate DAM and developer then you could consider:
1. Using C1 in session mode and importing your developed selects into an Aperture library (and get the benefit of the Aperture OS integration and sharing options). To be honest, I haven't tried this, but it certainly seems a starter and means you can keep what you have got as the basis for going forward.
2. Import C1 sessions into a C1 catalogue. I( tried it as an experiment. It works, but the catalogue looks untidy. If you make any changes in the catalogue they won't be reflected back in the session; so, this is for archiving only. I don't do this.
3. Use Media Pro. It handles huge range of file types (including ones that C1 and Aperture won't handle) and you can send files to any number of applications to develop. I find the application of metadata works well for me (I prefer it to Aperture). It seems reasonably robust for me (I haven't had any of the crashing issues recently). On the other hand updates are pretty few and far between (even fewer than Aperture). It works well with C1 in session mode.
4. Consider an alternative DAM. I am messing about with Photo Supreme (successor to IDImager and available in the Mac App Store). It works pretty well, although I have had a few issues with it, which are probably down to me not understanding the app properly. Documentation is thin on the ground, but it is being actively developed (lasted updated on 23 May) and there is a very helpful user forum. I haven't given up on Media Pro yet, but this is likely to be my backup plan if I need it. It will import Media Pro and Aperture catalogues as well. It also allows you to send images to a variety of specified apps.
I just wanted you to see that there were other options.0 -
Question to moorlag:
the software Media pro was abandoned, where does the information come from? I find only in this forum such assumptions.
( Lightroom has its quality. But the first time Adobe came out with an new functionality ( IPad-app ) only available subscribers. I fear, there will be more functionalities in the future for Lightroom only for subscribers.
12€ / month = 144€ / year = 720€ in 5 years ( I'm running Aperture now since 5 years ). And If I stop the subscription I have nothing any more.)0 -
[quote="NN635247238378699468UL" wrote:
... the software Media pro was abandoned, where does the information come from? I find only in this forum such assumptions...
You can't find any of that information via the official channels.
Many users of Media Pro on this forum though, some of them heavy users (i currently have some 65K+ images and a bunch of videos in MP) and many of those users are not seeing the love a properly supported tool like MP should get.0
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