How to get Adjustments on pictures from MBPro to MacPro
Hello, sorry for my maybe silly question!
I have a MacPro on which I have my CaptureOne Catalog from all my pictures.
On some of them I like to make some adjustments like WhiteBalance, Lokal Adjustments, Sharpening and so on...
But my problem is that I like to do this on my MacBookPro (relaxed in my garden) and then I will bring back this adjustments onto the same pictures on my MacPro. I don't know how to do this, but I am shure there is an easy way for this "problem".
Maybe you can give me a tip, or is it not possible to do this without taking everytime the whole Catalog from the MacPro via USB or WLan to the MacBookPro and after working on some pictures the same way back?
Waiting for you guys.
From Germany
Klaus
I have a MacPro on which I have my CaptureOne Catalog from all my pictures.
On some of them I like to make some adjustments like WhiteBalance, Lokal Adjustments, Sharpening and so on...
But my problem is that I like to do this on my MacBookPro (relaxed in my garden) and then I will bring back this adjustments onto the same pictures on my MacPro. I don't know how to do this, but I am shure there is an easy way for this "problem".
Maybe you can give me a tip, or is it not possible to do this without taking everytime the whole Catalog from the MacPro via USB or WLan to the MacBookPro and after working on some pictures the same way back?
Waiting for you guys.
From Germany
Klaus
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The simple answer is to copy the capture one catalog from one computer to the other. Of course since the image location will be in different folders you need to point the database to the appropriate folder for the machine you are using.
I admit I am a little unsure as the best way to copy C1 databases.
Apparently it is important that the program be closed at the time the database is copied from one machine to the other or else you may get the error that the file is open on another machine when you try to open it.
It seems to me C1 lacks a catalog export command. There is no export catalog command, just backup catalog which seems to produce a file much smaller than the catalog.
I have copied the catalog and pasted it to a new drive, but I am not sure if that is the best way.
The alternative is to back up and then restore on the new machine, but I worry that the previews would need to be redone. Hopefully keywording and adjustments are preserved.
Another alternative which I have used is to run from a portable USB drive and move that from machine to machine, launching C1 by clicking the catalog you want opened.
This process does need to be simplified. I use different machines because I travel and take a fair number of travel photos and like to begin processing before I get back to my desktop.0 -
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This process does need to be simplified. I use different machines because I travel and take a fair number of travel photos and like to begin processing before I get back to my desktop.
Have you considered using Sessions when you travel?
On return just import the results of the Session into your catalogue.
Or just leave things in sessions ....
Grant0 -
I am facing the same problem, using large catalogs at home and on tour and therefore on 2 different Macs. My RAW images are on an external disk, and they stay there. My catalogs are referenced, but this shouldn't matter here.
An idea:
WARNING! I did not test this yet!
Always create backups!
In theory, CO catalog files can be treated like folders on the Mac.
When treating CO catalogs as folders, a sync would only replace changed and add non-existing files. This would decrease the transfer time drastically, because it does not need to replace all existing previews and files that have not been changed. The database itself, for example, is pretty small, even in a 25GB or bigger catalog.
It would be excellent for speeding up transfers and updating backup copies.
Remember:
WARNING! I did not test this yet!
Always create backups!
Did anybody already try this?
Can anyone share his experiences here?
Regards,
Hans0 -
I have a similar setup, albeit with a slight twist. Mac Pro with all photos on an external drive, and a MacBook Pro that does not have fast access to the photos. I use ChronoSync to keep things in sync, and it works well. ChronoSync is "package aware", so it scans the C1 catalog and only transfers files that have changed, which makes the sync process much faster. When working on the MacBook Pro I don't have access to the images, but the hi-res previews are more than adequate for culling and any editing that doesn't involve critical color changes. When I'm done on the MacBook Pro, running ChronoSync will transfer just the edits back the the Mac Pro, which is quite fast.
Works well with both Capture One and Aperture, and something I've been using for years with no problems at all..
- Ken0 -
Great! Thanks for sharing, Ken.
3 important remarks for all those who, like me, want to try syncing it. I know this will go wrong:
❗️ Make sure to have updated content in the source catalog only!
❗️ Sync source to target only!
❗️ Check the log. If there are newer files at the target side, better choose to replace the complete catalog content. (You will loose the changes made at to the target catalog!)
If you have changes in both catalogs, or if you try to sync both ways, you can - and most likely will - mess up the whole catalog!
Regards,
Hans0 -
Hello Guys, I think I got it!
So easy!
O. K. First I took my whole catalog included the originals from my MacPro to MacBookPro. Sure, this takes a little time, but only this one.
Second I made some adjustments, layer adjustments and so on onto my pictures in MacBookPro.
Third I copy only the catalog from the MacBookPor (without the originals) back in the same folder on my MacPro from where I exported all to the MacBookPro.
Because in this folder there are the originals (and some other folders too) the catalog comming from the MacBookPro will show all the adjustments on my MacPro which I had done on the MacBookPro.
So after this time it will work the same doing this from MacPro too MacBookPro but without to take the originals onto the MacBookPro. From now it is enough only to copy the catalog onto there where you need the youngest version.
So easy, why didn't I get this earlier onto work.
Hope some of you can help this.
Klaus from Germany0 -
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly. It sounds like you're doing a manual sync by replacing everything but the 'Originals' from within the .cocatalog structure.
A real sync will work easier, faster and more reliable. The necessary options are: 'source replaces target', 'replace more recent' and 'treat apps like folders'.
This way, you can sync a folder with a number of .cocatalog files in one go. You can save your standard syncs for re-use. And you can add, move and remove images to, in and from your catalogs, it takes care for previews, masks, LCCs, and all such stuff.
SyncTwoFolders seems to be able to get the job done, it's for free (donationware).
Regards,
Hans0 -
Hello Hans B.
Thank you for these tipp, I will try to this and will give you back the reply of what was going on.
Regards
Klaus from Germany0 -
Hello Hans B.
It works very fine and is total easy, the much more better way for my wish to keep the catalogs on both macs in sync.
Thank you very much!
Maybe you can give me another tipp? Is there a way to create a catalog with copies of all pictures on the MacBookPro (coming from MacPro catalog) but the pictures should all be smaller size, for example on MacPro all RAW-files and on MacBookPro these files in form of JPG. And when I make changes on the JPG and sync them back I only like to sync the adjustments back to the RAW and these adjustments should be seen the on the MacPro. The JPG should not go onto the MacPro. The reason is that my pictures all together have more than 300 GB and that will fill the hard drive on the MacBookPro very fast, this is the reason for taking "smaller" pictures to the MacBookPro, but in full dimension!
Is there a good way to do this and do you know what I try to do?
Regards Klaus from Germany0 -
A remark first: in SyncTwoFolders, 'treat apps like folders' means to uncheck 'Packages' in the 'Process these folders like files:' option. Just to avoid confusion. 😊
I've got a similar situation. A mobile environment with limited disk space and more than 700GB images.
Here's what I do, with the most important advantages and disadvantages in my personal workflow.
My catalogs are local on both Macs.
Advanyages
+ speed
+ reliability
Disadvantages
+ need to sync
My catalogs are referenced.
Advantages
+ the catalogs are 10-20 times smaller than with embedded RAWs. And the more megapixel, the bigger the difference. (I am using a 10mp and an 18mp camera, both in each catalog.)
Disadvantages
- local RAWS: none. But not my choice.
- RAWs on USB disk: see below.
All my RAW files are on an external, mobile USB disk. I am using USB because of cost and compatibility. And it's no problem for my workflow.
Advantages:
+ connected: works just like a local catalog with embedded RAWs.
+ disconnected: even offline, catalogs are great for showing and the usual editing.
+ images don't eat up my local disk space
+ connected: they have the same path on both macs, and synced catalogs work out of the box.
+ connected: I can print, export, open with, edit with, create LCCs and use automask.
+ connected: I can do detailed sharpness and clarity on the RAWs.
+ it's mobile, like the rest
+ I can create backups by simply syncing one USB disk to another. Incremental, if I want to keep images in backup after deleting on working disk. But I do it by replacing, because I only delete something when I'm sure I really want to.
Disadvantages:
- connected: speed limit because of USB. I barely notice it in my normal workflow. But it strikes me on exporting batches. Reading about 1 image/s on USB2 and 5 images/s on USB3. My old MBP mid2009 needs a couple of seconds per 18mp export anyway. But, depending on the workflow, even with USB3 it can be an issue.
- disconnected: I cannot print, export, open with, edit with, create LCCs and use automask.
- disconnected: sharpness is limited when zooming in. Offline work uses resized JPEG previews.
- connected: reduces battery life when working mobile.
I did not test it with a mobile wireless disk or a mobile thunderbolt disk.
Hope this helps. 😊
Regards,
Hans0 -
Hallo Hans,
many thanks for your complex work and answer, I have to read this all slow now, because something the vocables are not mor e present in my brain and I work to understand what does this all means what you so friendly wrote for me (and others too).
So when I see through it all I will reply.
Until then have a nice time.
Klaus
from Germany0 -
Hello Klaus
As a matter of fact, I could easily write it in German... 😉
A well-suited workflow is not always easy to create. And it is even more difficult to change a workflow once you got used to the way it is. For me, storage and mobility were important parts of it. I found my workflow, and I hope my post helps you to find yours. Please keep in mind that I am not editing hundreds or thousands of images each week. I am only going for the best shots. Still quite a number, each time...
Regards,
Hans
from Germany, too. 😄0
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