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CO12 / CO11

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I have the Capture One version 11 and have downloaded and installed trial version 12.

When I create a session that was created in Capture One 11, the session data in version 12 is converted and backup data is created.
But if I want to create a new session, it will automatically be created in version 12. However, version 11 can no longer access these.
If I decide not to update to CO12 and stay with CO11, all session data will be unusable?
Or can i convert this to CO11?
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  • SFA
    You converted V11 to V12 session will be no use to you but the C11 informaton will be left in place and you can return to V11 by renaming the saved cosessiondb file(s) for the session(s).

    V12 sessions will likely contain data for features and functions that simply do not exist in V11 and so would be of no use to you in V11. However if you decide to upgrade later they would be usable.

    In all cases I have assumed that you will not have undertaken and "tidy up" activities and, potentially, erased data that the versions need to work with existing edits.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Permanently deleted user
    V12 sessions will likely contain data for features and functions that simply do not exist in V11 and so would be of no use to you in V11. However if you decide to upgrade later they would be usable.


    I am well aware that there is no way back for new features to an older version, but it's still very annoying
    that you can not export to the older version while losing the new features.
    That's what other, similar programs do.

    Since the assumption comes on, that Phase One wants to push the customer for the update more or less strongly
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636122108841519463" wrote:
    V12 sessions will likely contain data for features and functions that simply do not exist in V11 and so would be of no use to you in V11. However if you decide to upgrade later they would be usable.


    I am well aware that there is no way back for new features to an older version, but it's still very annoying
    that you can not export to the older version while losing the new features.
    That's what other, similar programs do.



    Really?

    And why did you not mention your "well awareness" in the first post?
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  • Peter Brockhausen
    [quote="NNN636122108841519463" wrote:
    I am well aware that there is no way back for new features to an older version, but it's still very annoying
    that you can not export to the older version while losing the new features.
    That's what other, similar programs do.


    Do have an example, which other program does this exactly?

    --peter
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Just a few examples:
    - Corel can save a lot of version jumps, and also save a lot of foreign formats
    - Autocad can save a lot of version jumps. And even with the free DWG TrueView
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  • cdc
    How are those programs similar to Capture One?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I just wanted to ask a question or direct a suggestion to the developers.
    But what is happening here is unfortunately no longer support.
    I have no desire for discussions at this level and I do not want to spend any time on it. ☹️
    I'd rather get my camera and do some creative work with it. And the work after taking Pictures CO V11 iis available
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636122108841519463" wrote:
    I just wanted to ask a question or direct a suggestion to the developers.
    But what is happening here is unfortunately no longer support.
    I have no desire for discussions at this level and I do not want to spend any time on it. ☹️
    I'd rather get my camera and do some creative work with it. And the work after taking Pictures CO V11 iis available


    Ah.

    The forum is provided by Phase as a user to user forum. Staff members may monitor posts and sometimes comment but that is not guaranteed and certainly not intended to be official support. (Although it may at times appear to be close to that for some matters.)

    The best way by far to communicate your feelings to the development or marketing teams is to use the Support Case system, directing your report or comments to the appropriate offered channel(s).

    If you want to work with C1 but for older edits stay with the older versions of the development engine you can do that with in the later versions.

    However I don't see that it is likely to be viable or even that common to be able to downgrade from new to old functionality meaningfully. None of the business application software that I work with (with the possible exception of certain Office products from Microsoft but for reasons that are to suit Microsoft rather than the user more often than not) attmept to offer an "edit with new but downgrade the edit files fo the old version" option.

    Old versions of output file formats - sure. For wide spread file sharing and compatibility reasons. But not the edit files.

    For a start there are likely to be times when throwing so much away makes no sense. Better to use the old software to start with and retain what would otherwise be lost.

    And then there is the question of commercial logic.

    For Microsoft supply Operating systems and business applications by the billion it almost certainly makes at least some sense to keep people captive to their products in any way they can promise. They are likely a very unusual case in that respect.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I'm well aware of the background of this forum.
    And discussing sense or nonsense of my question leads to nothing.
    Actually, I only wanted to work on a specific project with the trial version CO V12 and then decide if I would like to update to V12 or not.
    If I come to the decision that an update brings me nothing, I would not have to throw away everything.
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  • SFA
    [quote="NNN636122108841519463" wrote:
    I'm well aware of the background of this forum.
    And discussing sense or nonsense of my question leads to nothing.
    Actually, I only wanted to work on a specific project with the trial version CO V12 and then decide if I would like to update to V12 or not.
    If I come to the decision that an update brings me nothing, I would not have to throw away everything.


    Well, had you mentioned all of that in the first post it would at least have suggested that you knew what you were doing with the possibility that you could work it out for yourself without seeking any advice.
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