RAW adjustments -> Processed
Hi, in need of some help.
I am working with a photographer who also uses CaptureOne. The photographer applies adjustments to the RAW files with no color space/icc profile. Just whatever is default to the RAW file.
I prefer to retouch the original and not retouch on top of their adjustments. I exported the original as a TIF, retouched the image in Photoshop, then imported the retouched TIF back into CaptureOne, and copied the photographer's adjustments from the RAW capture to the retouched TIF. Well it ended up looking crazy. After some looking around I realized it doesn't apply properly because the retouched image has the AdobeRGB (1998) color space and the photographer didn't apply any icc profile when they made the adjustments to the RAW during the shoot.
This shoot is already done and I'm not sure how to fix this problem. Also hoping I might be missing something simple?
I am working with a photographer who also uses CaptureOne. The photographer applies adjustments to the RAW files with no color space/icc profile. Just whatever is default to the RAW file.
I prefer to retouch the original and not retouch on top of their adjustments. I exported the original as a TIF, retouched the image in Photoshop, then imported the retouched TIF back into CaptureOne, and copied the photographer's adjustments from the RAW capture to the retouched TIF. Well it ended up looking crazy. After some looking around I realized it doesn't apply properly because the retouched image has the AdobeRGB (1998) color space and the photographer didn't apply any icc profile when they made the adjustments to the RAW during the shoot.
This shoot is already done and I'm not sure how to fix this problem. Also hoping I might be missing something simple?
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[quote="NN635614642946676579UL" wrote:
In many cameras the color space is set in the camera, although should make no difference for RAW images, although this will be part of the exported original from Capture One.
Hi, in need of some help.
I am working with a photographer who also uses CaptureOne. The photographer applies adjustments to the RAW files with no color space/icc profile. Just whatever is default to the RAW file.I prefer to retouch the original and not retouch on top of their adjustments. I exported the original as a TIF, retouched the image in Photoshop, then imported the retouched TIF back into CaptureOne, and copied the photographer's adjustments from the RAW capture to the retouched TIF.
Thats definitely the long way around
Well it ended up looking crazy. After some looking around I realized it doesn't apply properly because the retouched image has the AdobeRGB (1998) color space and the photographer didn't apply any icc profile when they made the adjustments to the RAW during the shoot.
This shoot is already done and I'm not sure how to fix this problem. Also hoping I might be missing something simple?
What you could do is:- Make a new variant of each image in Capture One. Do this by copying variant 1, and then reset all adjustments. In this way you keep any metadata added by the other photog.
- This new variant will be number [2] )assuming there is only 1 variant to start witth) and have no adjustments. You might apply a color tag to the new variants to make them stand out.
- Make your adjustments and Metadata changes to the new variant [2].
- Copy the adjustments from variant[1] to the the adjustment clipboard. (You can deselect some adjustments if you do not want to copy them).
- Paste the adjustments from the clipboard to variant [2]
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Thanks for taking the time to respond, Eric. 😊 The issue is I have to do heavy retouching. Most of the time I have to do compositing and extending of images, so I need to export the images to edit in Photoshop. The photographer applied a lot of adjustments including grain which makes it hard to retouch off of their adjusted RAW images. That's why I make a variant and export it to retouch and tried to bring the image back into CaptureOne to apply their "treatment" to the image. It just hasn't worked because the color spaces I think. The colors just look super off when I go to apply the adjustments after retouching. :\ 0 -
I don’t see adjustments of the same parameter working in two photo tools - particularly these two.
When importing Lightroom catalogs into Capture One, image adjustments are not imported (from Aperture, yes).
I think you need to choose one photo tool (sounds like photo shop) and make all your adjustments there. Export the originals from Capture One. Or export the variants, but reset the adjustments that you are going to change anyway. e.g. brightness or curves. KISS principle.
If you are going to reset an adjustment for many variants, double check the procedure on one variant, select edit all variants, select all remaining variants and reset.
BTW When writing scripts for Capture One I noticed that the default CO adjustments for certain (many?) camera types were grain, sharpness and noise reduction. The grain you are seeing may be the default CO setting for the camera.0 -
Hi Eric,
I'm not trying to use adjustments in different software. Just Capture One for adjustments and Photoshop for heavy retouching.
-> Photographer goes on shoot
-> We receive Capture One session that has photographers "treatment" aka heavy color adjustments and tonality style for specific editorial photography look on images
-> I export the original images from Capture One and retouch the images in Photoshop
-> After retouching, I import the images back into CaptureOne and apply the adjustments (style) the photographer made for the look.
The bottleneck is the photographer makes all these very specific and impossible to perfectly replicate look in Capture One which wouldn't be an issue if they didn't do it on RAW images and instead did it a color space so I can, within Capture One, copy and apply adjustments after I'm done retouching. When in Capture One, if you copy the adjustments and apply them to an image, it has to be the same icc profile/colorspace or else the adjustments look different in comparison.
I think I'm just screwed for this project and have to ask the photographer to not make adjustments for RAW images next time and do it within the AdobeRGB (1998) color space so that it's consistent across the workflow from shoot to production.0 -
[quote="NN635614642946676579UL" wrote:
-> Photographer goes on shoot
-> We receive Capture One session that has photographers "treatment" aka heavy color adjustments and tonality style for specific editorial photography look on images
-> I export the original images from Capture One and retouch the images in Photoshop
-> After retouching, I import the images back into CaptureOne and apply the adjustments (style) the photographer made for the look.
I may be missing something but wouldn't this work:
-> Photographer goes on shoot
-> We receive Capture One session that has photographers "treatment" aka heavy color adjustments and tonality style for specific editorial photography look on images
-> I export the edited images from Capture One and retouch the images in Photoshop
-> After retouching, I import the images back into CaptureOne and you are done
Or even:
-> Photographer goes on shoot
-> We receive Capture One session that has photographers "treatment" aka heavy color adjustments and tonality style for specific editorial photography look on images
-> I use "Edit With Photoshop" the edited images from Capture One and retouch the images in Photoshop
-> You are done - one less step
Changes to the workflow in bold0
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