Wanted.. ipad lite version for DSLR + eye-fi or?
I have been thinking about an alternative more mobile wifi tethered workflow recently that sends midres/highish jpgs to ipad that runs some sort of capture one app but cut down when using DSLRs canon preferably or nikon. So would shoot Raws to CF card and simultaneously jpgs to an eye-fi card in the SD slot that would wirelessly transfer to the ipad app. And on the app would have basic colour balance, exposure, saturation, HDR and curves, and possibly clarity and sharpening.
And there would be full integration with normal full CO pro 6/7, in a way that the adjustments could be saved/sent with image number details so you can then import CF card RAW files card on computer in the normal way. Then hit a 'sync' button and on loading the ipads metadata/adjustments file, all the adjustments are then applied to the corresponding RAW files.
Similar to the new IQ2 backs ipad feature /app. Now all I could find is its using or called capture pilot - is this the normal capture pilot or is this an different new app that exists IQ2 back owners only to use, and could this work in a similar fashion on a DSLR with an eye-fi card transmitting the images instead like i'm thinking?
Now you can currently shoot fine to ipad on many DSLRs using eye-fi card and app, but what you cant do is put a decent grade on images and let that apply to any incoming new images. As much as this could be a dual request to eye-fi to include some grading & adjusting tools I'm a capture one user and dont want to have to run sideways system on the ipad, and then have to manually recreate the grade. Like I said the cross app bit is important to be able to send the grade to raws back at studio.
Has anyone else had this idea or wish for CO7 to develop? And more importantly have Phase One thought about or looked into this too?
I see there's a similar thread thats interesting but it still uses a laptop although wirelessly.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10854
Maybe another couple of years till Canon or Nikon can put reliable fast wifi transmitters into some of their cameras and we can shoot to ipad .. but then maybe another couple of years till we'll have an ipad pro to proper work on!
And there would be full integration with normal full CO pro 6/7, in a way that the adjustments could be saved/sent with image number details so you can then import CF card RAW files card on computer in the normal way. Then hit a 'sync' button and on loading the ipads metadata/adjustments file, all the adjustments are then applied to the corresponding RAW files.
Similar to the new IQ2 backs ipad feature /app. Now all I could find is its using or called capture pilot - is this the normal capture pilot or is this an different new app that exists IQ2 back owners only to use, and could this work in a similar fashion on a DSLR with an eye-fi card transmitting the images instead like i'm thinking?
Now you can currently shoot fine to ipad on many DSLRs using eye-fi card and app, but what you cant do is put a decent grade on images and let that apply to any incoming new images. As much as this could be a dual request to eye-fi to include some grading & adjusting tools I'm a capture one user and dont want to have to run sideways system on the ipad, and then have to manually recreate the grade. Like I said the cross app bit is important to be able to send the grade to raws back at studio.
Has anyone else had this idea or wish for CO7 to develop? And more importantly have Phase One thought about or looked into this too?
I see there's a similar thread thats interesting but it still uses a laptop although wirelessly.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10854
Maybe another couple of years till Canon or Nikon can put reliable fast wifi transmitters into some of their cameras and we can shoot to ipad .. but then maybe another couple of years till we'll have an ipad pro to proper work on!
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I believe Canon has introduced this feature with the EOS 6D and accompaniying iPad app. 0 -
I think you will always be struggling with RAW files if you keep up to date with camera technology.
Maybe in a few years newly designed Tablets will have enough memory and processing power to be realistic tools for processing old model (i.e. today's) RAW files. My i7 and graphics combo seems to give it a good shot. But until that time things may be limited unless there is some sort of remarkable image management breakthrough.
Iirc the Canon app for the 6D is specifically intended to work with jpg files. That's good progress but does remove some degree of complexity, as you would expect, compared to trying to find the processor power to work with RAW files.
There are a few apps around that achieve or almost achieve what you want to do but they will always be subject to the vagaries of the manufacturers decisions
For the consumer, getting all of the standards pinned down would be an enormous benefit. For the manufacturers - maybe not so much.0 -
No, I dont want to send RAW files to an ipad (just yet anyway till we have ipads that could replace macbook pros!)
just mid or highish res jps.
The 6 D is a valid point , had overlooked this but has it only one SD slot, maybe this is where you meant RAWS to ipad ?
Th canon software I think you can only shoot review but not grade, these apps are missing a point to date well maybe for those of us who like to make a look of the image. Or maybe it would be too much processing power than is currently available .0 -
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No, I dont want to send RAW files to an ipad (just yet anyway till we have ipads that could replace macbook pros!)
just mid or highish res jps.
The 6 D is a valid point , had overlooked this but has it only one SD slot, maybe this is where you meant RAWS to ipad ?
Th canon software I think you can only shoot review but not grade, these apps are missing a point to date well maybe for those of us who like to make a look of the image. Or maybe it would be too much processing power than is currently available .
Quite right of course, I re-read your original post an realised I had missed the point about RAW to CF card. But then, as you point out for the 6D, there is no guarantee that a camera will have 2 slots or more generically 2 or more save locations) so whatever application might be developed would surely need to work on a single slot basis for it to be commercially viable.
As I recall the Canon app also limits the image dimensions presumably in part to keep the file size managable and in part to reduce he level of incompatibility with currently available screen sizes for typical mobile devices.
If you are looking at jpg only then there are already a number of tablet/phone editors that allow you to tweak values. However where that leaves you with getting the same results starting from a RAW file is not so clear. Start again I suppose although of course the C1 Catalogue functionality offers the potential for working with the represeantation of the files as held in the catalogue even when the file in question is on a remote unconected device. I assume that means that values applied to a local lower resolution jpg can also be re-interpreted to a higher resolution RAW file if required.
Presumably side car files and common naming values (or at least common reference codes for all versions of a particular image) would be required if an assumptive workflow was to be followed.
I suspect that that we might see the manufacturers seeking to provide their own services for the Wi-Fi connectivity probably on a 'Cloud' basis. In which case You would just need to connect your mobile device to the same cloud service and work directly on the files. Yep, it seems like a lot of data shunting around the www but people seem to be K with hat these days. It would least least give a solution to the ratings problem it working on the same file and also an instant full backed up backup - making one card in a camera a less uncomfortable situation perhaps? If the cloud does become the preferred approach I would guess the manufacturers will been to be able to stick an application or two and some in camera savings of settings into a workflow that also involves the camera - on the basis that acess to the web may not aways be possible.
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