Maker Notes destroyed?
Am I correct that Capture One destroys the Maker Notes in a developed file?
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Could you be more explicit on what Maker Notes are? IPTC metadata I assume, but typical field? Sorry for my ignorance. 0 -
http://www.digicamhelp.com/glossary/makernotes/
Deleting maker notes would be a true show stopper for anyone who takes metadata serious. Can you confirm that the maker notes are indeed deleted or am I confused?0 -
Here's an example of what is written in the maker notes of a Nikon camera. As you can imagine this information should be preserved.
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exi ... Nikon.html0 -
I see. Maker Notes are EXIF data entered by the camera on capture. Maker Notes are not standardized. I suggest you contact Phase One support for a statement on their support. 0 -
[quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
I see. Maker Notes are EXIF data entered by the camera on capture. Maker Notes are not standardized. I suggest you contact Phase One support for a statement on their support.
It seems they are not even standardised by the makers for their own product ranges.
Even more interesting were some of the comments included in the data structure information for the second link.
Absent the use of jpg images, where some of the settings would apply and might be useful in some way retrospectively, (Possibly also DNG and TIFF??) I'm not sure of the value of the rest of the data that C1 does not automatically show for most people most of the time. It has often puzzled me why on Flickr some images display, when viewing the Exif data, a very long list of information, some of it duplicated and maybe triplicated, that has little or no meaning for any purpose at all as far as I can tell.
I think I now know.
A Maker Data dump.
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[quote="HansDeZomers" wrote:
Deleting maker notes would be a true show stopper for anyone who takes metadata serious.
Capture One doesn't "delete" maker notes - they remain in the Raw file ad infinitum.
In common with all other third party Raw converters I'm aware of though, they are not migrated into the converted image because they have no relevance as far as the appearance of the converted image is concerned.
There's simply no obvious case for embedding into a converted tiff from Capture One, the fact that (say) the source Canon camera had Firmware version 1.0.4 installed; or that it had used AF point 21; or that the camera was set to Auto ISO.
Because Capture One cannot understand, use or apply these metadata values (not even image-specific ones like the default saturation level the camera was set to), it simply adds no value to the end result to add them to the converted file's metadata.
They can therefore very easily be characterised as irrelevant to Capture One and to the conversion process.
This is standard behaviour - to a greater or less extent - for all non maker-specific Raw converters.0 -
The maker notes don't need to be interpreted in order to write them. I disagree with your statement that the maker notes are irrelevant. Look at the Nikon link I shared and you'll see that maker notes include detailed lens information, focus point information, color information, face detected areas and a lot more. Yes, firmware holds little value (though one could argue with that) but there's a lot more that is very valuable and should not be deleted. And afaik Lightroom (to name one) does store the maker notes. Maker notes are in a single Exif tag and should not be deleted, no matter if the application is able to interpret the content or not. The content is way too valuable from a metadata point of view.
Microsoft was notorious in the past for weak metadata writing and deleting maker notes. Now with Capture one we're back to square one...yet another tool with weak metadata handling. Time for a good look at Adobe. They at least know that metadata is an important asset of the image.0 -
I presume that what you mean by a developed file you you mean it is exported.
Because I found it strange that C1 would destroy them I exported some files and found that the maker notes still there, just as the applied keywords.
Could you take a look at your process recipes? They contain a tab where you can indicate whether or not you want to include several kinds of metadata in your file. Maybe they are turned off.0 -
Seems like the makernotes are not propagated. I just processed a Sony .ARW file and exported it as jpg. Although everything was ticked in the export metadata tab (including camera metatdata) exiftool cannot find any makernotes in the exported jpg file. This was with Capture One pro for Sony 8.3.4 Win 64. 0
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