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Shortcuts for Vignette, Copy Previous Image?

Alley Oop
I'm new to Capture One, using 7.1.2, attempting a switch from Lightroom, excited about Capture One's unique features and potential.

I'm a wedding photographer who needs to process at light speed, so I'm setting up keyboard shortcuts and need the following that I'm not finding in the Edit Keyboard Shortcuts dialog:

1) Vignette

2) Copy Settings from Previous Image

Any help appreciated. 😄

Thanks!
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  • Drew Altdo
    1) Sorry but there is no Keyboard Command associated with the Vignette
    2) You can use the Copy Adjustments Keyboard Shortcut from the image selected.

    Perhaps using Presets or Styles is the best option for your workflow regarding Vignette?
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  • Alley Oop
    Thanks for the reply.

    I would encourage the addition of vignetting alongside the other adjustment shortcuts like Clarity, Sharpening, and so on.

    2) You can use the Copy Adjustments Keyboard Shortcut from the image selected.


    Wouldn't I need to then go back to the previous image, copy, move forward to current image, then apply?

    If so, that would be four steps (far too slow) rather than one keystroke that copies from previous image. I currently have that (one stroke) capability with LR. Speed is very important.

    Perhaps using Presets or Styles is the best option for your workflow regarding Vignette?


    I apply vignettes (and their strengths) on an individual basis. As a workaround, is there a way to set a predefined vignette strength that can be applied with one keyboard shortcut?
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  • SFA
    Speed is something I like when editing and event shoot but I'm puzzled about how you would gain speed with a Vignette shortcut when you apply individual settings to each image.

    To me that suggests the best option might simply to be to have the Vignette tool floating which makes it directly accessible for any image you are actively editing.

    If you want to copy a vignette from one image to another (or to several) just highlight the Images and use Copy and Apply from the images that is selected as Primary at the time. You could apply this to the entire set of course.

    Or, to come at this from another direction, if you mostly always deploy a vignette maybe it would be worth considering applying the tool as a pre-set when importing the images and then simply removing (if not required - single click if the tool is open or floating) or modifying the setting if you wish to keep it but reset to suit the image.

    A dedicated and personalized Workspace defined for your specific needs might make this especially effective.

    As a really off the wall suggestion you could, I guess, generate some LCC profiles to give you a variety of vignette styles that might be readily applied but I'm not sure that would offer anything more than a bunch of pre-defined pre-sets would do for your purpose.


    HTH.


    Grant Perkins
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  • Alley Oop
    [quote="SFA" wrote:
    I'm puzzled about how you would gain speed with a Vignette shortcut when you apply individual settings to each image.


    SFA, I appreciate your suggestions!

    I'm not sure how to address your initial question. With my Lightroom keyboard, I have two keys on the keyboard for assigned for vignette. So for the few images that I do vignette, it's a quick tap, tap to taste and I'm done.

    That fact that keyboard strokes are faster than the mouse / pen tablet / slider approach seems self-evident.

    If you want to copy a vignette from one image to another (or to several) just highlight the Images and use Copy and Apply from the images that is selected as Primary at the time. You could apply this to the entire set of course.

    Or, to come at this from another direction, if you mostly always deploy a vignette maybe it would be worth considering applying the tool as a pre-set when importing the images and then simply removing (if not required - single click if the tool is open or floating) or modifying the setting if you wish to keep it but reset to suit the image.

    A dedicated and personalized Workspace defined for your specific needs might make this especially effective.

    As a really off the wall suggestion you could, I guess, generate some LCC profiles to give you a variety of vignette styles that might be readily applied but I'm not sure that would offer anything more than a bunch of pre-defined pre-sets would do for your purpose.


    Thanks for those ideas. I don't use vignette enough to make it part of a style or copy it to a group.

    For me vignette is like clarity or shadow adjustment (for which shortcuts are facilitated). I don't use those adjustments for every image, but a keyboard stroke makes it faster when I do. So why does Capture One allow keyboard shortcuts for those two and not vignette?

    Likewise, a single keystroke that copies settings from the previous image is much faster than backtracking to copy and apply. In my workflow I don't often get a long series of images with the same settings but certainly have many instances when I have a series of two or three. A copy from previous image keystroke provides the necessary processing speed.
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  • SFA
    Hi AO

    Well I have to confess that from your original description of the requirement, especially the need for speed, I assumed that you almost always used the vignette tool.

    Discovering that that is not the case means a revised suggestion is due and the quesiton of speed is less of an issue in reality.

    If you are using your 2 tap approach I assume that you are always applying the same vignette? Or at least starting frome the same values via the keyboard short cut.

    In which case I would suggest considering the following.

    Batch the task.


    Set a flag (Colour or maybe rating) for those that you wont to consider for vignette as you apply the other edits. At some point filter for those that are tagged and then batch apply the vignette to all of them at the same time.

    Alternatively just set up the vignette you think best suits the shoot and copy it to the adjustment tool and then scan through your selected images applyig the tool with a single click to each image you wish to have a vignette.

    Create your own Quick access tool tab.

    If you add a Vignette tool to your quick access tool tab (or float the tool if that is OK - should work well of you have 2 screens for example) then you can set your preferred vignette and copy/apply in a single action.

    There may be other approaches that have not yet occurred to me as suitable for what you have outlines as a requirement. A pre-set would be one but if you are not deploying vignettes widely on the results of the shoot there may be less value in suggesting that.

    Whilst the approach may be different to what you are currently doing I would be surprised if a small revision in workflow for a small number of images would make a lot of difference to your total elapsed time (longer or shorter) for processing the batch once you have worked out an alternative approach. If I'm wrong about that I would love to understand what aspect I have missed - it would be a good learning event.

    My suggestions, for what they are worth.

    Grant Perkins
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  • Alley Oop
    With my LR setup, I have a single keyboard letter assigned to +vignette. So it's one quick keystroke to add vignetting.

    When dealing with large volumes of wedding images, small increases in task duration can have dramatic effects.

    Even if I vignette only 10% of a wedding, an extra five seconds would result in an almost ten minute delay in overall processing of the typical job. So a shortcut for vignette is still the best solution. A single keystroke for Copy Settings from Previous image would also be a huge time saver over the copy and apply method.

    Having said that, I'm new to Capture One and am eager to try the alternate methods that you suggest. Thanks for taking the time to explain those possible solutions.

    And I'm mindful and appreciative that the other main exposure/color shortcuts ARE currently available to use (not so in Lightroom without a third-party application!). And vignette is only one that--as you rightfully point out--I use on a small percentage of images.
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