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Annoying tool tip (on reset icon)

BeO
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Often I use the small reset icon with ALT to temporarily reset the tool settings and to assess the change in the preview image. Particularly this tool tip is very large and bright and it reaches into the image and spoils the before/after assessment.

Is there a way to switch tooltips off?
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  • cdc
    Super annoying!

    It is a Windows based setting and I haven't found a way to disable it though haven't searched for the issue for some time now. Search for disabling tooltips and if you find the answer let us know.
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  • SFA
    You could of course do the comparison a different way and so avoid the tool tips completely.
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  • BeO
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    Internet is not generous on this topic. I now created a ticket with P1. If you are annoyed too you might think about creating a ticket too, increasing chances for a next release...

    Grant, if you know a different way which is as fast as the ALT+icon click please let me know. I sometimes compare side by side but most often prefer in-place change if it is quick (unless this annyoing "intermediate" preview image shows up)

    Cheers,
    BeO
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Famous issue. Can't get rid of it.

    I personally haven't complained as I don't find a big deal, and the tips have been rather useful at times.

    Sure would be good to have a toggle for it.
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  • SFA
    [quote="gusferlizi" wrote:
    Famous issue. Can't get rid of it.

    I personally haven't complained as I don't find a big deal, and the tips have been rather useful at times.

    Sure would be good to have a toggle for it.


    Cue (particularly) new users toggling off on installation and then complaining they have no idea what the tools do in endless posts on the forum.
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  • SFA
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Internet is not generous on this topic. I now created a ticket with P1. If you are annoyed too you might think about creating a ticket too, increasing chances for a next release...

    Grant, if you know a different way which is as fast as the ALT+icon click please let me know. I sometimes compare side by side but most often prefer in-place change if it is quick (unless this annyoing "intermediate" preview image shows up)

    Cheers,
    BeO


    How many times do you Alt +Icon click when editing an image?

    For repeated use of the feature, without any intervening action, as far as I can tell the advisory help only appears once.

    However if you look at the original, make further edits, look at the original again then the help will redisplay briefly.

    Foe me its a totally redundant feature since it is extremely rarely that I would ever went to see and entirely reset original file. (I could appreciated that if you had as an "original" and already extensively edited image file that was being edited for fine adjustments that might be a different situation.)

    I would use F7 (Or in my case more likely F8 to save an "edit to date" version), select both variants, carry on working on the one I am editing and use the left/right arrow keys to toggle between the two or even display them side by side in the viewer.

    When done, delete the "original" if you don't want it again. If it is the totally reset original version you will, of course, always be able to recreate it on demand providing you keep the original file.

    If you often refer back to the original (or a previous state of edit as per import adjustments for example) I think this approach makes a lot more sense. But then this was the approach required by my favoured editor prior to C1 so I came to appreciate the approach and never had a temporary reset button to rely on anyway.

    YMMV.


    Grant
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  • BeO
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    Hi Grant,

    thanks. Yes I also use the technique to compare two different variants. A total reset to the original I also use rather seldom. What I mean is the temp reset of one specific tool to compare my settings with the default setting. I use this very often to see if my modification of that specific tool is better than the default. Settings from other tools which I also modified remain unaffected, that's the cool thing with this function. Creating a variant each time I play with one tool and want to compare with the tools default is overkill.

    The tooltip vanishes after a few seconds but this is a very long time.

    I also very often use a temporary reset of just one slider by a click on the sliders caption, another cool feature.
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  • SFA
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Hi Grant,

    thanks. Yes I also use the technique to compare two different variants. A total reset to the original I also use rather seldom. What I mean is the temp reset of one specific tool to compare my settings with the default setting. I use this very often to see if my modification of that specific tool is better than the default. Settings from other tools which I also modified remain unaffected, that's the cool thing with this function. Creating a variant each time I play with one tool and want to compare with the tools default is overkill.

    The tooltip vanishes after a few seconds but this is a very long time.

    I also very often use a temporary reset of just one slider by a click on the sliders caption, another cool feature.


    I've never found the tool tips excessively intrusive - or at least not the ones I regularly use.

    Have you considered using floating tools? No tool tips appear when using floating tools.

    If you have a regular set of tools you want to use you can float each of them and then join them into a single block. (I don't think there is a way to "float" all the tools in a tab but there may be and I just have not found it.)

    With a suitable screen size or multiple monitors it might well be possible to arrange things on the screen real estate to be able to use either tab tools or the floating tools and keep thing within peripheral view so as to be able to operate the tools even though focused on the image.


    Grant
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  • BeO
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    [quote="SFA" wrote:


    I've never found the tool tips excessively intrusive - or at least not the ones I regularly use.

    Grant

    Do you use a tools reset button? 4 lines with a long sentence without line break is huge.

    [quote="SFA" wrote:

    Have you considered using floating tools? No tool tips appear when using floating tools.
    Grant

    They appear also with a floating tool - if the tool has focus/is selected. If you have multiple tools floating and one tool is in focus and you hover over another tools buttons then the tips do not appear, maybe therefore you think they don't?

    If you have a regular set of tools you want to use you can float each of them and then join them into a single block. (I don't think there is a way to "float" all the tools in a tab but there may be and I just have not found it.)

    [quote="SFA" wrote:

    With a suitable screen size or multiple monitors it might well be possible to arrange things on the screen real estate to be able to use either tab tools or the floating tools and keep thing within peripheral view so as to be able to operate the tools even though focused on the image.
    Grant


    Yes I know. I am only allowed to have one monitor in the living room... 😊 and this is an eizo cs240 which isn't particular huge.

    I also tried Toolbar at the right, this mitigates the issue, but I am so much used to have the tools on the left.

    A keyboard shurtcut to toggle them ON/OFF (CTRL F2?) would be useful, and/or time setting for the tool tips.
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  • cdc
    [quote="BeO" wrote:
    Internet is not generous on this topic. I now created a ticket with P1. If you are annoyed too you might think about creating a ticket too, increasing chances for a next release...

    Grant, if you know a different way which is as fast as the ALT+icon click please let me know. I sometimes compare side by side but most often prefer in-place change if it is quick (unless this annyoing "intermediate" preview image shows up)

    Cheers,
    BeO


    I suspect that won't get you anywhere because Windows is displaying the tooltips, not Capture One.

    Here is a link with some things you can try, first with explorer options, then by modifying the registry if that does not work: https://winaero.com/blog/disable-tooltips-windows-10/
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  • BeO
    Top Commenter
    [quote="cdc" wrote:

    I suspect that won't get you anywhere because Windows is displaying the tooltips, not Capture One.

    Here is a link with some things you can try, first with explorer options, then by modifying the registry if that does not work: https://winaero.com/blog/disable-tooltips-windows-10/


    Thanks. I am on Win7 but tried the same setting in the registry and as I suspected it only had an effect on the application "Explorer". P1 could do the same with their application C1.
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