Catalogs & Sessions - Work flow

Niko Kolios

• 8. November 2015 04:25

I generally use sessions to store all my images but I am working on a longterm project and I need to bring the images together to review and do a final edit but I don't want lose my sessions. I usually work on my laptop and then when I'm done I move everything to an external drive. I have a few questions if anyone can help.

1. If I import sessions into a catalogue and leave the image in its original location, can I still edit the image in a session and does the catalog get updated automatically if I do that? And would this work the other way around. I use Eip's.

2. Does it actually import the session database or just the images, are the sessions basically dead and not useable once you have imported them into a catalog?

3. If and when I am done and I want to move the sessions and catalogs to the external drive will all the file hierarchy be maintain or will I have to reconnect everything? Or do I just have to move everything around in Capture one and it maintains the links?

Thanks

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  SFA

  • 8. November 2015 10:09

  [quote="NNN635151436494581177" wrote:
  I generally use sessions to store all my images but I am working on a longterm project and I need to bring the images together to review and do a final edit but I don't want lose my sessions. I usually work on my laptop and then when I'm done I move everything to an external drive. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  
  1. If I import sessions into a catalogue and leave the image in its original location, can I still edit the image in a session and does the catalog get updated automatically if I do that? And would this work the other way around. I use Eip's.
  
  2. Does it actually import the session database or just the images, are the sessions basically dead and not useable once you have imported them into a catalog?
  
  3. If and when I am done and I want to move the sessions and catalogs to the external drive will all the file hierarchy be maintain or will I have to reconnect everything? Or do I just have to move everything around in Capture one and it maintains the links?
  
  Thanks

  
  
  1. As far as I am aware at this time (V8.3.4) Sessions and catalogs happily co-exist alongside each other but do not automatically update when one or other has edits/changes applied.
  
  2. Importing a session to a catalog, if the original images are left where they are as "Referenced" files, will import the existing session edits (if so instructed in the import options). The session can continue in parallel but see point 1.
  
  3. For a session - if the images are contained in folders within the session folder hierarchy you can copy/move the entire session by copy/moving the top level folder.
  
  If the session is connected to folders/images scattered around outside the session folder structure you may need to consider whether links to those locations, as recorded n the session database, will be maintained once the session has been archived to an external disk. If the external to session folder structure images will always stay where they are you should be OK - but it would be more certain if you could take steps to ensure they were copied or moved into the session folder structure USING CAPTURE ONE before archiving.
  
  If any such folders are shared with other sessions (or Catalogs) you will need to consider your best options for archiving.
  
  Moving a Catalog where the files have been stored internally will mean everything is kept together. It will likely be a large file.
  
  Moving a catalog that has referenced image files should retain links, afaik, if the moving is performed within C1. If not and the referenced files are themselves moved outside C1 then they will need re-linking and a tool is provided to assist with that. Of course prevention, in such a situation, is probably better than cure.
  
  Have you considered a master session to bring everything together as a final set for you final edits? If you are comfortable with sessions and don't actually need any catalog functionality that does not exist for sessions, you should be able to come up with a sort of Super Session that can be used to co-ordinate your final edits. You would not have to import any images to the Super Session - in fact you probably would not want to if you wished to retain the integrity of your individual sessions complete with latest edits.
  
  
  HTH.
  
  
  Grant

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  Niko Kolios

  • 8. November 2015 16:55

  Hi Grant,
  Many thanks for your reply. Perhaps a Master session might be the best way to go, I'm not really sure what additional functionality a catalog would give me anyway. Its one project but its about 120gb of images and growing so putting it in a large catalog is not practical, I was thought referenced images might work here but then its just keeping it all together that is an issue.
  
  How does a Super session work? Just re-import everything into one session but leave the images where they are? Are there benefits to doing it this way over a catalog with referenced images?
  
  Niko

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  SFA

  • 8. November 2015 20:42

  Hi Niko,
  
  At the risk of seeming to duck the question .... how would you want a Super Session to work?
  
  I have in mind you earlier question about whether edits in a catalog would be reflected in the session and vice versa.
  
  If that is what you want then I don't think importing helps.
  
  On balance I think it may be best to use the "Selects" feature in each session and then have a "supersession" the references the Selects folders (which can be any folder you select) for each session. So for a session you choose the images you want. The supersession references only to those images where they remain in the original sessions. Possibly as favourites - not a necessity I think but probably a convenience.
  
  So the supersession with the selection remains a sensible size but the connections to the original sessions continue to exist if you need them.
  
  Best to take a few small sample selections from th existing sessions and try the concept. Nothing to lose except a little time and effort and you may find something in the process that exactly suits your preferred solution.
  
  
  HTH.
  
  
  Grant

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