Is GTX 670 4GB worthwhile for budget hardware acce
I know I need 4gb.
Don't want to spend much on a card at the moment. New cards are so expensive and I don't want to be left high and dry having paid £400-£500 for GTX 1070 only to find the market flooded with ex-mining cards the next day.
Is an old GTX 670 4GB going to be worthwhile? Or is there some newer tech in the very latest budget cards that will outperform it?
My other consideration was a new RADEON PRO WX 3100 4GB but that would be around £100 more than a used GT 670 4Gb.
Whats best?
Don't want to spend much on a card at the moment. New cards are so expensive and I don't want to be left high and dry having paid £400-£500 for GTX 1070 only to find the market flooded with ex-mining cards the next day.
Is an old GTX 670 4GB going to be worthwhile? Or is there some newer tech in the very latest budget cards that will outperform it?
My other consideration was a new RADEON PRO WX 3100 4GB but that would be around £100 more than a used GT 670 4Gb.
Whats best?
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Phase recommends Radeon cards with as many compute units as you can get, BUT I have a GTX 670 2GB power edition (light overclock) and it's alright.
Between the W3100 and the GTX 670, I think it's a bit of a tie. The Nvidia card is faster, but the Radeon has a more modern OpenCL engine which could take the edge in C1...
...I saw an RX 560 4GB at CEX for 130 quid and am a little tempted.0 -
I bought my son a 4gb Saphire RX 560 last year for his birthday.
I tried capture one pro 11 on his pc a few weeks ago. Capture one crashed while configuring hardware, then said hardware acceleration not available. I found the required folder and deleted some files then it worked the second time around.
I can report Capture One 11 works very well with the 4GB RX 560 (it's what got me started in the first place). It's smooth moving the sliders and there isn't the micro lag while making the adjustments. The zoom and panning is still rubbish as you wait for the pixelation to come into focus. It's fair better on my old mac mini with integrated HD4000. Apparently, the software isn't as well optimised on the P.C version. The mac version just feels much better all-round.
Also, the moment you use spot removal it breaks ALL GPU display acceleration and you are straight back to basics, i.e no GPU acceleration.
In the end, I bought used a GTX 670 4gb for £70 and have it now, but haven't had time to fit it. I will report back once done0 -
Nice.
Yes, particularly unfortunate behaviours with the 100% panning and spot removal.
If you can, let me know how the RX560 and GTX 670 compare to each other.
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Hi, these are the results all on the same PC - fairly low end, Ryzen 3 2200G CPU , 8 GB 2933MHZ Ram, b350 chipset.
The RX 560 achieved what I needed, but I am only working at 1920 x 1080 display, AP-C sensor images and processing for web sRGB.
onboard GPU Ryzen 2200g Vega 8 - <Benchmark>0.368480</Benchmark>
(rubbish need to disable display hardware acceleration, as it causes artefacts when making adjustments)
<Index>0</Index>
<Platform>AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing</Platform>
<Version>OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2482.6)</Version>
<Device>gfx902</Device>
<Driver>2482.6 (PAL,HSAIL)</Driver>
<GlobalMemoryMB>3500</GlobalMemoryMB>
<NumberOfKernels>1133</NumberOfKernels>
<NumberOfCompiledKernels>1133</NumberOfCompiledKernels>
<Benchmark>0.368480</Benchmark>
<Status>Benchmarked:CL_SUCCESS</Status>
Dedicated GTX 670 4GB <Benchmark>0.268736</Benchmark>
(not very good, annoying lag when moving slider to refocus after adjustment, was hoping for better)
<Index>0</Index>
<Platform>NVIDIA CUDA</Platform>
<Version>OpenCL 1.2 CUDA 9.2.127</Version>
<Device>GeForce GTX 670</Device>
<Driver>398.11</Driver>
<GlobalMemoryMB>4096</GlobalMemoryMB>
<NumberOfKernels>1133</NumberOfKernels>
<NumberOfCompiledKernels>1133</NumberOfCompiledKernels>
<Benchmark>0.268736</Benchmark>
<Status>Benchmarked:CL_SUCCESS</Status>
Dedicated RX 560 4GB <Benchmark>0.189680</Benchmark>
(Nice!, feels smooth to use, sliders are responsive with no lag in focus)
<Index>0</Index>
<Platform>AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing</Platform>
<Version>OpenCL 2.1 AMD-APP (2580.6)</Version>
<Device>Baffin</Device>
<Driver>2580.6</Driver>
<GlobalMemoryMB>4096</GlobalMemoryMB>
<NumberOfKernels>1133</NumberOfKernels>
<NumberOfCompiledKernels>1133</NumberOfCompiledKernels>
<Benchmark>0.189680</Benchmark>
<Status>Benchmarked:CL_SUCCESS</Status>
Would a FirePro W5100 be better than the RX560 for capture one? It has less compute units 12 vs 16, less bandwidth and GFLOPS processing, but could it somehow be better because it is a FirePro W5100?0 -
The only added value for a workstation GPU such as WX or quadro is 10 bit support, otherwise there too expensive in comparison and when they are the same price as a gaming card there's a reason for it, age for instance or the lack of 4K / UHD support.
I'm not sure if that's the direction you'd want to go (10 bit color), it seems better get a Radeon, though the difference in performance is small.
Nvidia is better supported by Adobe in some cases, such as Illustrator it seems.
There's not "One GPU to rule them all" 😉0 -
Thanks,
No need for 10bit for now and I really only use capture one. I have to admit, I also play League of Legends on my ahem - 'work computer' and the inbuilt GPU does just fine at the moment - hold 80fps at max settings. However, it's capture one performance I would prefer well above League of Legends.
Running cool and low power is also essential
My shortlist:
Radeon FirePro W5100 - used
AMD Radeon Pro WX 3100 - new
AMD Radeon RX 560 - new
It seems the RX 560 would be the best choice on such a limited budget.0 -
So, enough messing about I just ordered the rx560 4gb, based on the acceptable performance of my son's borrowed RX560 card that worked well with CO11 and runs cool and quiet. Furthermore, when using his card I did notice an option to change modes between graphics and compute, so that option might have some legs.
Hard to come by at anything resembling a sensible price, but got an ITX 4GB one with all the compute units enabled version for £129 plus P&P https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-msi ... 4-hdmi-20b
Word of caution, if you see one cheap, they are often the cut back versions with 14 compute units rather than the full 16 Cu's it should have. Naughty AMD.
Handy that the ITX version was available and an OK price, as I built the PC as small form factor on an ITX motherboard, for my wife, but then decided to keep it and use it as a mini workstation for me. Also doesn't use 6 pin PCI power lead, runs off the motherboard, so hoping it's super low power and cool.0 -
Interesting! This bus powered RX 560 might be the perfect eGPU I'm looking for!
I don't know about this lag you refer to with the GTX 670, but I'm sorry it didn't work out.
Cheers
EDIT: Oh! There is a recent thread...
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=28242
Apparently for C-M-B it took a system reinstall to get C1 to accelerate on his Nvidia card after a recent windows update.
...I don't get adjustment lag even on my X230 with an Intel HD 4000...0
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