SLOW response on mask painting
Any clues on this? Painting a mask layer to then apply a moire reduction on, the response time of either showing the mask or not, going between brush & erase is painfully slow. To the point of extreme irritation.
Session contains only 43 NEF files from a D810 so it's hardly massive.
Mac Pro (late 2013 tin of Guinness version). 3.5Ghz 6 core Intel Xeon E5:
32Gb RAM:
OS = 10.10.5 Yosemite:
Files held on an external SSD connected via Thunderbolt:
No other applications open
Any suggestions & solutions gratefully accepted.
Session contains only 43 NEF files from a D810 so it's hardly massive.
Mac Pro (late 2013 tin of Guinness version). 3.5Ghz 6 core Intel Xeon E5:
32Gb RAM:
OS = 10.10.5 Yosemite:
Files held on an external SSD connected via Thunderbolt:
No other applications open
Any suggestions & solutions gratefully accepted.
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I found experimenting with 'Hardware Acceleration' in the General tab of Preferences made masking much smoother for me - currently I have it set to 'Never' for both Display and Processing on an iMac 5k - I also use a preview image size equivalent to my screen resolution (although I don't think this affects processes like masking it does seem to speed up the loading of images in the viewer window). 0 -
I have the same issue with more mundane layers. Simply showing or hiding the masks takes 30s, and brushing is even worse. However, I can usually get 'fix' it by reducing the size of the viewer. It feels as if there is some magical size under which everything becomes snappy again. Oddly enough, there are times when it remains relatively snappy in larger sizes. I can't figure out why…
Of course, it's a bit silly that you must reduce your editing real-estate.
Cheers,
Peter.0 -
[quote="peter.f" wrote:
I have the same issue with more mundane layers. Simply showing or hiding the masks takes 30s, and brushing is even worse. However, I can usually get 'fix' it by reducing the size of the viewer. It feels as if there is some magical size under which everything becomes snappy again. Oddly enough, there are times when it remains relatively snappy in larger sizes. I can't figure out why…
Of course, it's a bit silly that you must reduce your editing real-estate.
Cheers,
Peter.
Are you painting the mask with the mouse or with a tablet? If with a tablet does it have a precision mode? Occasionally I find sluggish response when painting with a tablet without using precision mode; this does not happen when running the tablet with precision mode enabled, I suspect this has something to do with the fact that when painting a mask with precision mode enabled the mask is painted more slowly than when not using precision mode.0 -
[quote="NN259560UL" wrote:
Are you painting the mask with the mouse or with a tablet? If with a tablet does it have a precision mode? Occasionally I find sluggish response when painting with a tablet without using precision mode; this does not happen when running the tablet with precision mode enabled, I suspect this has something to do with the fact that when painting a mask with precision mode enabled the mask is painted more slowly than when not using precision mode.
I believe that you're on to something. Yesterday, I spent hours editing pics using the mouse, brushing 3 or 4 layers per pic. No problem. This morning, I plugged in my old Bamboo Wacom tablet (no precision mode, not pressure sensitive), and worked on a single pic. Boom. Now, even when I view the pic, the CPU shoots up. View another pic, CPU goes down. View the bad one, CPU goes up... This even happens after I restart C1P.
Oddly enough, when I clone that variant and remove the layers, the problem remains… bizarre.
I made a screen recording of this and wanted to file a case, but their login screen is non-operational for the moment.
Bottom line: put my tablet aside (and get a better one).
Cheers,
Peter.0 -
[quote="peter.f" wrote:
[quote="NN259560UL" wrote:
Are you painting the mask with the mouse or with a tablet?
I believe that you're on to something. ...
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Oddly enough, when I clone that variant and remove the layers, the problem remains… bizarre.
Peter.
Update: I played around a little more and found that the cropping was the culprit. When viewing that image the CPU goes up. When I then reset the cropping the CPU goes back to normal. Undo -> CUP high. Reset and redo the crop -> CPU stays low.
As soon as the support site is back I'll report it to P1 (with movies).
Cheers,
Peter.0 -
[quote="peter.f" wrote:
[quote="NN259560UL" wrote:
Are you painting the mask with the mouse or with a tablet?
I believe that you're on to something. ...
When using the tablet does the size of the brush make it more or less sluggish, does a bigger brush make it more sluggish and a smaller brush less sluggish? I have the feeling that the tablet floods the CO processing engine with too much information causing the CPU bursts and don't think this can be configured.
The other thing I noticed with my tablet is that sometimes I draw the masks 'too quickly', if that makes sense, when I drawing them too quickly the CPU bursts happen. I have now slowed down and have less problems.[quote="peter.f" wrote:
Update: I played around a little more and found that the cropping was the culprit. When viewing that image the CPU goes up. When I then reset the cropping the CPU goes back to normal. Undo -> CUP high. Reset and redo the crop -> CPU stays low.
This has an impact in your workflow and appears to suggest that it is optimal to draw the masks first and them crop. In addition to the crop have you used any keystone corrections and the straighten tool?0 -
[quote="NN259560UL" wrote:
[quote="peter.f" wrote:
Update: I played around a little more and found that the cropping was the culprit. When viewing that image the CPU goes up. When I then reset the cropping the CPU goes back to normal. Undo -> CUP high. Reset and redo the crop -> CPU stays low.
This has an impact in your workflow and appears to suggest that it is optimal to draw the masks first and them crop. In addition to the crop have you used any keystone corrections and the straighten tool?
I did not have a much bigger brush size when using the tablet. Also, not pressure sensitive. The speed might have been a bit higher with the brush, but not much so.
No keystone nor straighten.
The really odd thing is that when I reset the crop and redraw the crop (not undo, but with the crop tool), the image is fine (i.e. no excessive CPU). So it does not seem that there is a good or bad workflow, but only that there was something wrong with that particular image at that point.
I've recorded this and filed a case.
Another odd thing is that C1P sometimes shows "Undo keystone" in the menu instead of "Undo crop". And a very funny "show mask" behaviour where the mask would only be shown for a few seconds. Well, I hope P1 can find something useful in the evidence I presented.
At least, I now know how to solve the issue should it present itself once more.
Cheers,
Peter.0
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