1D Mark IV and DNG in 5.1
It seems there may be an issue going from 1D Mark IV RAW files to DNG in 5.1. All attempts to do so generate an error of the form
"Error processing Dng file SPUK2553.CR2 - Processing to DNG not supported"
The same recipe works fine for 1D Mark III RAW files. I've logged a case with support.
"Error processing Dng file SPUK2553.CR2 - Processing to DNG not supported"
The same recipe works fine for 1D Mark III RAW files. I've logged a case with support.
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Same on 5.1/Mac. Thanks for contacting support. 0 -
Are we sure these are RAW files and not some compressed RAW format (which isn't RAW)? 0 -
Yes. Standard 1D Mark IV RAW files. Not mRAW or sRAW or any other such nonsense, plain old full resolution 1D Mark IV RAW files. 0 -
Thank God! We'll take a look. 0 -
I got the same error but on a .nef file.
Error Processing Dng file 11110.nef - Processing to DNG not supported0 -
[quote="Normand2" wrote:
I got the same error but on a .nef file.
Error Processing Dng file 11110.nef - Processing to DNG not supported
Support case and file please.0 -
This is now resolved for the EOS1D Mark IV in version 5.1.2 of Capture One Pro for Windows. 0 -
Better then what it was but still Adobe can't read the changes or CO can't read it either so what the point? Why don't you just take off the the menu 0 -
[quote="Normand2" wrote:
Better then what it was but still Adobe can't read the changes or CO can't read it either so what the point? Why don't you just take off the the menu
If you're saying that Cap One outputs to DNG without including any changes you've made, that's exactly as designed and always had been - the output to DNG option is simply to allow archiving to DNG "RAW" format, so they have to be "unedited".
The manual is very clear about this:Output to DNG
Many see a benefit of using DNG for archival purposes.
Outputting to DNG format in Capture One in essence creates a new RAW file. There are no options for size or compression with this format. All changes made to the image will be discarded when creating the DNG file.0 -
What the point of even having DNG then? 0 -
The point is long term archival, Normand.
http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/
http://tinyurl.com/35ygrg8
DNG is a RAW format, so the whole idea of being able to save changes to a DNG file is entirely contrary to the concept and underlying principles of RAW. This is all pretty basic stuff, Normand: you don't change RAW files.
Of course, even if you don't archive to DNG, one of the main practical advantages of DNG files is that converters that also support conversion of DNG into image formats like jpeg and TIFF give users the ability to convert RAW files that aren't yet officially supported by the converter: I've often converted a new camera's files to DNG with the free Adobe converter and then processed them into jpeg with a current version of Capture One that didn't at that point support the new camera.
Nevertheless, Cap One's ability to create DNG files is purely for archival purposes. If you don't need it, just don't use it, but it's a perfectly valid use case.0 -
I like using DNG, not for archive, I use my camera raw for that, any changes I make in DNG format I can see it in explorer, bridge, and in other program without have to save it as jpg or tiff. It would be great to CO DNG change on the fly and able to see the changes in LR or visor verier (for printing and other things), I think CO is great raw program, I was hoping to see the changes it make in the DNG, this way there only one file to work with and it always in a raw format until I get ready to export or for the web or uploads. Basic work flow. If I need to make changes on and image then I would have the option to use either program with one file...... 0 -
Long term archival of "RAW" format data is, of course, the main point of DNG.
I worked in the IT industry for more years than I care to remember and over that time had the trauma of dealing with "no longer supported" file formats many, many times. I'd prefer not to get into that mess again.
Some of my RAW format files for the EOS 10D are now 7 years old. Frankly, I am very surprised that they are still supported in "modern" software packages and I can't see it being the case for too much longer. The effort required in maintaining support for old RAW format files will soon cause RAW converter manufacturers to (quietly) drop the outdated ones.
Of course, I can always keep a copy of Capture One 3.7 around to "deal" with the old photos but will Capture One 3.7 run on the operating system loaded onto my next PC? Probably not... So now I have to keep an old PC with an old operating system and an old copy of Capture One around just to deal with my old photos. It rapidly becomes an impractical solution.
DNG addresses that by giving us a non-proprietary, open, vendor independent archival RAW format. Because it's non-proprietary it will be around for many years and support for it will (hopefully) continue indefinitely. Now, I could generate my DNG files for archive purposes using Adobe's DNG conversion tool but it is so much easier to get C1 to do it for me. When I find an image I like from the shoot I click the "process" button once and C1 whizzes off and generates a flat file for subsequent processing, a small proof image for my website and a DNG for my archive. Simple and efficient (now that it is fixed 😉 ).0 -
[quote="Glenn32" wrote:
DNG addresses that by giving us a non-proprietary, open, vendor independent archival RAW format.
which
1) allows vendor to store proprietary data inside
and
2) Adobe own DNG converter discards some of the raw data during the conversion w/o disclosing that to you
way to go.0 -
Indeed, that's almost inevitable when you consider the technicalities of what the format is trying to do. However, I'm prepared to accept that minor issue (and it is minor 'cos images produced from RAW as opposed to RAW->DNG->whatever are indistinguishable in the tests I've done) as opposed to the rather more major one of having files in an unreadable format in a few years time.
Let's be blunt about this, if you don't want to use DNG as an archive format, no-one is forcing you to. If you're prepared to take the risk of not being able to read your RAW files a few years down the road, that's fine too; they're your photos.0 -
There's no doubt that "To DNG or not to DNG?" is the question. And many people feel passionately about this workflow... I personally can't stand DNG but that's another matter. Which brings me to my reason for this post.
If you would like to further discuss the Pro's and Con's of DNG I would welcome it, but please start a new thread so that others hoping to share their views can easily search for and find that topic.
And in regard to;[quote="Glenn32" wrote:
If you're prepared to take the risk of not being able to read your RAW files a few years down the road, that's fine too; they're your photos.
I think that is yet another issue, one I take with a very large grain of salt. One that should be discussed in another thread.
All good points/arguments and I think everyone would be better served if they are discussed under another topic.0
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