Output Profile question
Hi -
I'm a bit confused about output profiles. I have two questions:
1: Exposure warning: I assume that the exposure warning (shadow / highlight) is set for the output color space. This being the case, why do the under / over warning areas not change when I change the output space ? If I'm wrong about this, how can I see the output histogram or some measure of it within C1 ?
2: What is the actual effect of using the \"Embed camera profile\" in the output ? Does this mean that C1 does no colour space conversion beyond the initial RAW processing ? Is this actually the best choice if I'm going to do finishing in an external editor (e.g Photoshop) ?
Also a couple of suggestions:
1: It would be very useful to be able to switch the output colour space at a higher level, so that I can easily preview differences when working on white balance or image correction. Maybe a popup in the footer bar (where the internal / output spaces are displayed) ?
2: What about a toggle (say ALT-Click) to temporarily display the output histogram, like in Silverfast scanning software ?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
David Mantripp
I'm a bit confused about output profiles. I have two questions:
1: Exposure warning: I assume that the exposure warning (shadow / highlight) is set for the output color space. This being the case, why do the under / over warning areas not change when I change the output space ? If I'm wrong about this, how can I see the output histogram or some measure of it within C1 ?
2: What is the actual effect of using the \"Embed camera profile\" in the output ? Does this mean that C1 does no colour space conversion beyond the initial RAW processing ? Is this actually the best choice if I'm going to do finishing in an external editor (e.g Photoshop) ?
Also a couple of suggestions:
1: It would be very useful to be able to switch the output colour space at a higher level, so that I can easily preview differences when working on white balance or image correction. Maybe a popup in the footer bar (where the internal / output spaces are displayed) ?
2: What about a toggle (say ALT-Click) to temporarily display the output histogram, like in Silverfast scanning software ?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
David Mantripp
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Just control-click on the toolbar and select Customize Toolbar... Then drag Selected Destination up to wherever you want it.
I would recommend processing out to a standard RGB space instead of embedding Phase's camera space in your files. If you want something large for archiving, use a wide gamut RGB space.0 -
Oh I see....no I don't. I'm staring at Customize Toolbar but I don't see \"Selected Destination\" anywhere. I'm using SE... maybe this is in Pro ?
For the output colour space, I'd be interested to know why you recommend this. I've found small but significant improvements in shadows when I embed the camera profile in a 16 bit TIFF and convert to to AdobeRGB in Photoshop, compared to converting in C1SE. The archive output is a Photoshop file in AdobeRGB either way. The E-1 profile shows a larger space than Adobe RGB in most axes.0 -
Ya, it's probably a Pro thing then. Selected Destination is a pull down menu with other profiles to choose from.
What you're describing sounds to me like a workflow discrepancy. But if it works for you, then I see no reason to change, unless you want to eliminate that additional step.
I was suggesting outputting to something like ProPhoto RGB, which has a HUGE gamut. You may want to give that a whirl. It would be a good archive space as well.0
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