Search for printed images

brianmerwin

14. September 2015 17:35

Hey Michael,

Unfortunately I doubt you'll get any traction on this question. To the best of my knowledge, there is no metadata being written to image files to indicate that they've been printed, so there isn't really anything that Capture One (or really, any other program that reads metadata) would have to use for creating a search or a filter from.

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Permanently deleted user

15. September 2015 06:43

Hi Brian

Thank you for your response. That is a shame as I was used to that facility in Aperture. Lightroom also writes it to the history, though it can't be searched for which is an oversight. It can't be so hard to do as there is already an option to search images that have been Processed.

Perhaps there could be an option in the print dialogue box to automatically set a Keyword, Tag or Rating when an image is printed.

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Permanently deleted user

16. September 2015 10:21

Hi Michael

You can, of course, make sure that each print-ready image has a keyword embedded in the file name. In my case I print either A3 or A4, and I include these characters in the file name. Just a thought for you to consider.

Peter.

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SFA

22. September 2015 11:22

[quote="Peter" wrote:
Hi Michael

You can, of course, make sure that each print-ready image has a keyword embedded in the file name. In my case I print either A3 or A4, and I include these characters in the file name. Just a thought for you to consider.

Peter.

Or one could simply output a "print file" to a suitably named folder and with a suitable name for the file both of which identify that it has been printed.

Given that there are potentially a large number of output recipes for both processed files and directly printed options (in effect rather than as a list of recipes) I'm not sure that a "this file has been printed" flag, when printing directly from within Capture One, would really mean much unless one only ever uses a single print size and media type.

YMMV.

Grant

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Boris Sheikman

22. September 2015 12:09

I color tag each image that I print or post to Flickr. When I search for "Purple" tagged images then I see everything that I have exported to JPG/TIF and printed.

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29. Februar 2016 13:37

[quote="SFA" wrote:

Or one could simply output a "print file" to a suitably named folder and with a suitable name for the file both of which identify that it has been printed.

Given that there are potentially a large number of output recipes for both processed files and directly printed options (in effect rather than as a list of recipes) I'm not sure that a "this file has been printed" flag, when printing directly from within Capture One, would really mean much unless one only ever uses a single print size and media type.

YMMV.

Grant

Yes I could output a print file for another software package to print, but that is an extra thing to do and takes time. I shoot a lot of events where I sell images onsite to those there. Images sold on the day are often uploaded to Facebook for sharing etc. I have used the colour tagging for printed images but in the heat of a busy sales area, this is one step my staff often forget so having something that is automated when an image is printed would be very useful and not subject to user error. At the end of the day I can see quickly which images need to be uploaded to FB or not.

Searching for which images have been processed is possible but the result does not indicate which recipe was used so it does not have to be over complex for Print either.

Michael

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SFA

29. Februar 2016 14:29

[quote="Michael Martin" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:

Or one could simply output a "print file" to a suitably named folder and with a suitable name for the file both of which identify that it has been printed.

Given that there are potentially a large number of output recipes for both processed files and directly printed options (in effect rather than as a list of recipes) I'm not sure that a "this file has been printed" flag, when printing directly from within Capture One, would really mean much unless one only ever uses a single print size and media type.

YMMV.

Grant

Yes I could output a print file for another software package to print, but that is an extra thing to do and takes time. I shoot a lot of events where I sell images onsite to those there. Images sold on the day are often uploaded to Facebook for sharing etc. I have used the colour tagging for printed images but in the heat of a busy sales area, this is one step my staff often forget so having something that is automated when an image is printed would be very useful and not subject to user error. At the end of the day I can see quickly which images need to be uploaded to FB or not.

Searching for which images have been processed is possible but the result does not indicate which recipe was used so it does not have to be over complex for Print either.

Michael

Hi Michael,

OK, I understand the issues of shooting events and the challenges of doing things for "real time" sales. It's something I looked at and did not pursue some years ago.

Everyone I have talked to or observed that has been active in that field seems to have relied mainly on OOC jpgs, perhaps a little formulaic styling and a dedicated software tool to manage the whole activity.

Much as I love C1 the very fact that they were looking to use jpgs rather than RAW files for the mass sales did not point me in the direction of a RAW converter as the primary tool of choice. With "social media" taking off in recent times I see even less need for working from RAW files and even more for dealing with specialised software that handles the whole process from registering the subjects/potential clients through taking the payment and on to delivering the output.

I very much doubt that ultra high quality carefully honed images are likely to be as commercially viable as they might be at scale using a non-dedicated application.

As an after event service they may work well and offer premium revenue options.

I may be wrong of course ....

I have no idea what software is available for Macs but I know there are some options for Windows users so assume there will be for Macs too.

Grant

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8. März 2016 09:21

[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="Michael Martin" wrote:
[quote="SFA" wrote:

Or one could simply output a "print file" to a suitably named folder and with a suitable name for the file both of which identify that it has been printed.

Given that there are potentially a large number of output recipes for both processed files and directly printed options (in effect rather than as a list of recipes) I'm not sure that a "this file has been printed" flag, when printing directly from within Capture One, would really mean much unless one only ever uses a single print size and media type.

YMMV.

Grant

Yes I could output a print file for another software package to print, but that is an extra thing to do and takes time. I shoot a lot of events where I sell images onsite to those there. Images sold on the day are often uploaded to Facebook for sharing etc. I have used the colour tagging for printed images but in the heat of a busy sales area, this is one step my staff often forget so having something that is automated when an image is printed would be very useful and not subject to user error. At the end of the day I can see quickly which images need to be uploaded to FB or not.

Searching for which images have been processed is possible but the result does not indicate which recipe was used so it does not have to be over complex for Print either.

Michael

Hi Michael,

OK, I understand the issues of shooting events and the challenges of doing things for "real time" sales. It's something I looked at and did not pursue some years ago.

Everyone I have talked to or observed that has been active in that field seems to have relied mainly on OOC jpgs, perhaps a little formulaic styling and a dedicated software tool to manage the whole activity.

Much as I love C1 the very fact that they were looking to use jpgs rather than RAW files for the mass sales did not point me in the direction of a RAW converter as the primary tool of choice. With "social media" taking off in recent times I see even less need for working from RAW files and even more for dealing with specialised software that handles the whole process from registering the subjects/potential clients through taking the payment and on to delivering the output.

I very much doubt that ultra high quality carefully honed images are likely to be as commercially viable as they might be at scale using a non-dedicated application.

As an after event service they may work well and offer premium revenue options.

I may be wrong of course ....

I have no idea what software is available for Macs but I know there are some options for Windows users so assume there will be for Macs too.

Grant

Hi Grant

I understand that C1 is not aimed at events. For the last 10 years I have used Aperture, but since it is no longer supported I now primarily use Lightroom for events. Lightroom is very good for the job and beats C1 hands down for some aspects, especially the print options. C1 has the superb Process facility which allows me to send images to several different destinations at different sizes, watermarks etc with a single click. The Keyword function of C1 is also much better than LR, so with smart albums it is very easy to sort images fro different cameras etc. I rarely shoot RAW at events but sometimes, due to difficult lighting, it is required to give the customer the best results.

There is dedicated software for Windows, but I am not anything decent for Macs. Whilst I run my server and edit/print end on Macs, the viewing screens can be any browser enable device with wifi. I guess I will keep using a combination to get the images to the customer asap.

Michael

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