(MAC) Problems-coming from Lightroom :)
Hi everyone 😊,
I didn't sleep all the night because I looked for the solution all around the web, but finally didn't find it :'(. I'm usually not posting on forums, but I'm so attracted by Capture One that I really want to beat this problem.
The problem is simple :
I've got a Nikon D7100, and I've worked "very hard" on Lightroom settings to have the "same" picture on my MacBook Pro than the one displayed behind the camera. Working with the Camera Calibration , shadows etc...
Yesterday, I've tried to reach those kind of settings on Capture One. But it was purely impossible, even if you use the Capture One templates for the Nikon D7100.
Here is an example:
1°) The Lightroom One, just with the "Presets to look alike D7100 back"
2°) The Capture One one, with the "I've tried to give a look alike D7100 back"
So as you can see, there are problem with the "contrast", the reds etc etc...
If someone may be know the perfect template for Nikon D7100? :'( .
Thank you so much to all of you for your time, and have a good week end !
I didn't sleep all the night because I looked for the solution all around the web, but finally didn't find it :'(. I'm usually not posting on forums, but I'm so attracted by Capture One that I really want to beat this problem.
The problem is simple :
I've got a Nikon D7100, and I've worked "very hard" on Lightroom settings to have the "same" picture on my MacBook Pro than the one displayed behind the camera. Working with the Camera Calibration , shadows etc...
Yesterday, I've tried to reach those kind of settings on Capture One. But it was purely impossible, even if you use the Capture One templates for the Nikon D7100.
Here is an example:
1°) The Lightroom One, just with the "Presets to look alike D7100 back"
2°) The Capture One one, with the "I've tried to give a look alike D7100 back"
So as you can see, there are problem with the "contrast", the reds etc etc...
If someone may be know the perfect template for Nikon D7100? :'( .
Thank you so much to all of you for your time, and have a good week end !
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I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are trying to accomplish here.
Do you edit your pictures so that they look exactly like on the screen of your camera?
If so, then why?
Are you confused because the Capture One image looks different than the Lightroom image?
If so, then bear in mind that everybody (Phase One, Adobe, Apple, DXO) uses their own proprietary algorithms to interpret the RAW data coming from the sensor of the camera. That's why there's always a certain look and certain differences when you load a RAW into these tools. These differences may be in color interpretation, level of details, micro-contrast, default amount of noise reduction etc. In the end you have to choose what you think looks best and what works for you. Some of it is objective and measurable, some of it comes down to pure taste.0 -
Thank you MikeA for your fast answer 😊 !
I totally understand what you say. But the fact is that, i'll try to explain myself better. I want to colorgrade my pictures in Capture One, but with the "same" basis picture that I have in Lightroom.
In other words, I want to use CaptureOne but with the algorithm of Lightroom. Yes, i'm mad ^^. But maybe I can find the settings and the adjustments that I need to reach such a result?
I mean the Lightroom one is far less flat than the Capture One one :'(.
Thank you !0 -
If you're trying to replicate the look of the out of the camera JPG, Nikon software, NX-D will be 100% faithful if you select (in NX-D) Camera Compatible for the Picture Control option. Lightroom gives a decent approximation to this, but for skin tones, shadows etc. NX-D will give you IMO the best rendition for your D7100.
I believe that Phase One use an SDK from Nikon to reproduce Nikon white balance / curve settings. Not sure about that, but as an avid user of Nikon software for development, plus user of Picture Control system, Capture One is very good, much better than Lightroom, at reproducing the Nikon 'secret sauce'.
The exception being skin colour/ tones. With Nikon the sensor and software recognise skin and produce 'instamatic' great skin colour / tonality. This requires on my part, much work (I'm new -ish to Capture One Pro) to get close to what I like/ get about /from Nikon's skin rendition. I'm learning and motivated to stick with the Capture One.
So the short story is, from my experience, forget your Lightroom renditions and work at achieving what you want using Capture One Pro 8.2. C1P is different from LR and Nikon software. Try Nikon's software NX-D, use the Picture Control system and then compare with Capture One, maybe also Lightroom. I'd think about putting some sort of 'sunset clause' on Lightroom; such that you move your newer NEFs over to a 100% Capture One Pro workflow. When you're ready, consider deleting your LR catalogue and learn to see via C1P.
Feel free to ignore the above. 😄0 -
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I want to use CaptureOne but with the algorithm of Lightroom. Yes, i'm mad ^^. But maybe I can find the settings and the adjustments that I need to reach such a result?
My honest advice: forget the LR look for a moment and tackle your pictures completely new from scratch in C1. That's what I did when I recently moved over from Aperture. After let's say 50-100 images you will have found "your" very own C1 look that you like best. Save this as a preset and apply this going forward to every imported image and never look back. For me (as a Canon shooter), C1 is way ahead of Aperture, Lightroom and even DPP.[quote="NNN635642714095141683" wrote:
I mean the Lightroom one is far less flat than the Capture One one :'(.
Another honest opinion: I've looked at your image and immediately liked the C1 rendering better. You may want to tone down some of the reds, reduce the clarity and tune a little with the color wheels, but there is no reason why you should want to replicate the LR image 100%.0 -
Try this:
In the color tool tab you will find the ICC profile.
C1 will default to whatever camera you have, like the D7100. My guess is that it will say "Nikon D7100 Generic"
Now click on the dropdown box. You will find "show all". Click this. The dropdown menu will then close.
Click on the dropdown box again and you will find many ICC profiles. One of them may be a better starting point for the look you are trying to achieve.
For starters I would try "Adobe DNG Neutral"
If you find one you like, it can be made to be your default profile.
Remember there is no right or wrong ICC profile. The people at C1 developed this profile to their liking. Their ideal look may not be yours.0
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