Another issue with the Advanced Color Editor

VirtualRain

• 27. Februar 2015 05:16

Here's a demonstration of a bug with the Advanced Color Editor on a local adjustment layer...
http://youtu.be/HkaSlWOKgAc

This is getting maddening and frustrating. The number of issues I'm encountering is making me feel like I'm either the only one using this software to any great extent, or I'm severely cursed. ☹️

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  Ian Wilson

  Moderator

  • 27. Februar 2015 09:17

  

  Perhaps you should put in a support case in respect of this behaviour, and see whether Phase One can help you track down what is going on. I have just tried a very similar thing (with a bit of a roof, admittedly of a different colour) and nothing like what you show in your video happened.
  
  Ian

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  H. Cremers

  • 27. Februar 2015 11:52

  [quote="VirtualRain" wrote:
  Here's a demonstration of a bug with the Advanced Color Editor on a local adjustment layer...
  http://youtu.be/HkaSlWOKgAc
  
  This is getting maddening and frustrating. The number of issues I'm encountering is making me feel like I'm either the only one using this software to any great extent, or I'm severely cursed. ☹️

  
  
  Could you also state a brief description in a post, rather than the story in the video, what the problem is you're seeing?
  
  I haven't been able to listen to the sound of it (i'm at work), but seen the visual. From what i see, i can't spot anything obvious, so, a written narrative may help.

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  Jim_DK

  • 27. Februar 2015 12:43

  For anyone else reading this thread, the issue is that the masks overlap.
  
  Color editor makes changes to the camera profile - as you can only have one source for Color management reasons overlapping edits with a Color editor would need two sources - or a source for every layer you make an edit to - if you expected one layer to build on another.
  
  Sorry to say this is simply not possible and overlapping masks with Color Editor is limited by this fact.
  
  Other tools are not affected by overlapping masks.

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  VirtualRain

  • 27. Februar 2015 17:56

  [quote="Jim_DK" wrote:
  For anyone else reading this thread, the issue is that the masks overlap.
  
  Color editor makes changes to the camera profile - as you can only have one source for Color management reasons overlapping edits with a Color editor would need two sources - or a source for every layer you make an edit to - if you expected one layer to build on another.
  
  Sorry to say this is simply not possible and overlapping masks with Color Editor is limited by this fact.
  
  Other tools are not affected by overlapping masks.

  
  
  Yes, thanks... not sure if it was you that looked at my support case, but I appreciate it.
  
  For everyone else, the rather grey looking roof that appeared when I used the color editor to pick a color is actually how the roof looked in the original RAW (unmodified) which is why it was so out of place. At any rate, the bottom line is, don't try to do color edits on two overlapping masks.
  
  I'm not sure how I did this in C1, but on that same image, I have overlapping masks on the fence in the foreground... one to saturate the gold, the other to desaturate the black metal. Somehow that worked as expected even though the masks overlap at least somewhat.
  
  While this may be obvious to some, it wasn't to me, especially based on other tools I've been using in the past. I know I keep saying this, but NIK does allow overlapping tone mask adjustments.
  
  Anyway, it might be good to do a future in-depth webinar on using the color editor... it's not an easy tool to work with and there are lots of nuances to it.

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