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Metadata Presets

Steve Mallett
Hi folks

I'm new to C1 (3 days) and looking to migrate from Aperture. I posted earlier in the main part of the forum before spotting this Mac area.

I'm having a major issue with Metadata presets. I've set up a couple and saved them but can't find a way to get at them to apply them. I save as user presets but no User Presets appears in any of the menus. Using the diagonal arrow to copy metadata to the clipboard seems to work but pasting it to another image doesn't. It looks like a bug or am I being dense? I've spent hours on this and am feeling very frustrated! Any help much appreciated.

Running on 27" iMac, OS Yosemite 10.10.2

Thanks

Steve
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  • SFA
    Hi Steve,

    Firstly - have you seen this?

    http://help.phaseone.com/en/CO6/Organiz ... aspx#item1

    The first parts - unless you are doing something with Sidecar XMP files as well.


    and this

    http://help.phaseone.com/en/CO6/Organiz ... esets.aspx

    Starting points for the process. If that's already familiar territory skip to the next section.


    If you have a Preset you don't really need to Copy and Paste. However I have not experienced a problem using Copy and Paste for meta data but can do some testing if you tell us which meta data fields you are working with. Note that the Camera Meta data is not editable or copyable.


    Grant
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  • Steve Mallett
    Grant Hi

    Thanks for the response. Yes, seen both of those.

    Saving the preset works fine, I click the Manage option, select Save User Preset, select/deselect the metadata fields I want, click Save, give it a name and it's saved in ...library/application support/capture one/presets60/metadata/My Preset.copreset So far so good.

    Having done all that, if I click the Manage and Apply Presets icon I'm expecting to see an option for User Presets (from stuff I've read and videos watched) but it isn't there, only Save User Preset, Import Preset, Stack Presets.

    It's the same story if I go to the Styles & Presets tool. I can create a style which gets saved in the same directory as the Presets but again the Manage menu only has options for Built in Styles and Built in Presets.

    Is it me?

    Steve
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  • SFA
    [quote="NN635609837236953852UL" wrote:
    Grant Hi

    Thanks for the response. Yes, seen both of those.

    Saving the preset works fine, I click the Manage option, select Save User Preset, select/deselect the metadata fields I want, click Save, give it a name and it's saved in ...library/application support/capture one/presets60/metadata/My Preset.copreset So far so good.

    Having done all that, if I click the Manage and Apply Presets icon I'm expecting to see an option for User Presets (from stuff I've read and videos watched) but it isn't there, only Save User Preset, Import Preset, Stack Presets.

    It's the same story if I go to the Styles & Presets tool. I can create a style which gets saved in the same directory as the Presets but again the Manage menu only has options for Built in Styles and Built in Presets.

    Is it me?

    Steve


    Hi Steve,

    OK, now you have described that the problem is clearer. I would expect you to see an option to access User Styles and User Presets.

    I'm using Windows. My user Presets are in the equivalent location in the files system and I see them in all the expected places.

    I know next to nothing about Macs and their way of doing things but the most common advice found in here is to check permissions on the folders. However as you have managed to write to the folders that seems to be OK - unless OSX works in odd ways.

    Still, worth running a repair if you have not done so - you never know, it might just work.

    Others may come along with proper Mac knowledge based solutions but in case this is outside anyone's previous experience I would strongly suggest you create a Support Case with Phase to get some official analysis working for you checking the log files.

    You could also try a re-run of the Installation - or I assume there will be a log file some where that might offer a clue or two.

    Grant
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Steve,

    Seems there is something with your setup that prohibits user presets and user styles show up in your tools. Have you ran a permissions repair (Disk Utility) lately?
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  • Steve Mallett
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    Hi Steve,

    Seems there is something with your setup that prohibits user presets and user styles show up in your tools. Have you ran a permissions repair (Disk Utility) lately?


    Hi Paul, yes, I've repaired permissions. Made no difference.
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Hi Steve, do not have much options left. Last few are:
    - new session or catalog
    - login as another user account on your Mac
    All else: create a support case.
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  • meanwhile
    Hi Steve,

    Following the exact process with both user metadata presets and user styles, they both work as expected here.

    Can you check the directory in the Finder and see whether the file is where you expect and named what you expect? Wondering if maybe it has double suffix or something else weird.
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  • meanwhile
    It's the same story if I go to the Styles & Presets tool. I can create a style which gets saved in the same directory as the Presets but again the Manage menu only has options for Built in Styles and Built in Presets.


    When you say the same directory as the Presets, what do you mean exactly?

    User Styles need to go into:
    ~/Library/Application Support/Capture One/Styles/
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  • Steve Mallett
    [quote="meanwhile" wrote:
    It's the same story if I go to the Styles & Presets tool. I can create a style which gets saved in the same directory as the Presets but again the Manage menu only has options for Built in Styles and Built in Presets.


    When you say the same directory as the Presets, what do you mean exactly?

    User Styles need to go into:
    ~/Library/Application Support/Capture One/Styles/


    Sorry, my mistake:
    styles are in ..library/application support/capture one/styles
    presets are in ...library/application support/capture one/presets60/metadata

    I've reinstalled the software but still no option to access User Styles or Presets appears anywhere.

    Is there an uninstall everything option; software, catalogues, sessions etc so I can start again with a clean slate?
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    [quote="NN635609837236953852UL" wrote:
    ...
    I've reinstalled the software but still no option to access User Styles or Presets appears anywhere.

    Is there an uninstall everything option; software, catalogues, sessions etc so I can start again with a clean slate?

    http://www.phaseone.com/en/search/artic ... nguageid=1
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  • Steve Mallett
    Just created a new catalogue on a different drive, my SSD instead of the EHD the old catalogue was on, and now all works as it should! User Styles and Presets now appear on the menus. All very odd. I'll try using an EHD again later but I've spent enough time on this already!

    Thanks for all of your input.

    Steve
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  • Paul Steunebrink
    Thanks for the heads-up, Steve! Consider to put the catalog on the internal drive, and allow the images on the external drive. Should work.
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  • Steve Mallett
    [quote="Paul_Steunebrink" wrote:
    Thanks for the heads-up, Steve! Consider to put the catalog on the internal drive, and allow the images on the external drive. Should work.


    Paul, it's now set up with catalogue on internal SSD, images on EHD and all working well. I can now move on to the next set of challenges...
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  • meanwhile
    Do you know what format the external drive is? Might be a factor.
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  • Steve Mallett
    [quote="meanwhile" wrote:
    Do you know what format the external drive is? Might be a factor.


    All my EHD's are MAC OS Extended (Journaled)

    My original thinking was to have images and catalogue on the same EHD so I could move it between machines if I wanted but C1 clearly doesn't like something about it.
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  • iMatt
    I've been having the same problem accessing all of my metadata presets. All of my presets on in the user directory, but my files, and capture session are on a different internal HD.

    Additionally, the documentation suggests that txt files can be imported as presets to automate the input of metadata, but it does not elaborate on how to do this, or provide any txt file examples. Whenever I attempt to import a txt file as a preset c1 fails, and gives me an error. This would be a very useful function because I could automate the generation of metadata txt files from spreadsheets that photographers could later then apply as presets while they are shooting.

    Yosemite 10.10.1
    C1 8.3.1.16
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