META Data - color space not shown
I was trying to determine the color space used on some photographs and when I looked in the Meta data section all there is for color space is "--"
Is there a way to determine the color space used?
Is there a way to determine the color space used?
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If the file you are reviewing is a raw file, not JPEG or TIFF, no color space will show because there is no color space in a raw file. You create a RGB file with an RGB color space with Capture One. 0 -
I printed a picture direct from C1 Pro 6.3.3 and they came out looking "flat". I opened up Canon's Digital Photo Professional and it shows the color space as Adobe RGB under the shooting information (shot with EOS 5D Mark ll) so I assume this is why the print (on Epson Stylus 3880 Pro) looks flat as it sets to sRGB (printer managed).
How would I know which color space to print in if the RAW file does not have a color space? Or is there something else I'm not doing?0 -
You can't print a Raw file - you have to convert it to a printable format (tiff, jpeg etc.) at which point you can assign a colour space. 0 -
Thank you. I didn't realize that you had to convert before printing. 0 -
[quote="iDatura" wrote:
Thank you. I didn't realize that you had to convert before printing.
I have a different point of view. One of the new features of CO6 is the ability to print directly from raw. However, the program converts raw to RGB internally without saving it as a TIFF or JPEG. Point is, what is the working (color) space? My assumption - albeit not tested - is that the active process recipe is applied.
The working color space is not of your concern when you use the computer's color management (ColorSync) and printer profiles. However, when you let the printer do the color management for you, you need to know CO6's internal color space. Based on my assumption you'd better select AdobeRGB in your printer's driver. This may either be the default internal color space for printing or the color space selected in the process recipe (I assume the latter).
I advise for best results to use the computer's color management instead of that of the printer.0 -
Intersting observations Paul.
I have always found (using other applications) that the Canon driver results could be 'interesting' to manage.
Last week I was running some test prints, direct from the RAW files with edits applied, and got some good results allowing for the differences between screen and paper appearance. Than I tried some different files and the results were poor looking very much like double profiling but no matter what I tried with them nothing seemed to make the output look right. That included experimenting with the settings in the current Active Process recipe but with inconclusive results.
More experiments to follow but if anyone can provide guidance about how the direct print feature applies profiles and so on it could save me a lot of time.
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[quote="Paul_E" wrote:
I have a different point of view. One of the new features of CO6 is the ability to print directly from raw. However, the program converts raw to RGB internally without saving it as a TIFF or JPEG.
Really? I don't see how that's possible - a Raw isn't an image tile, so surely it must be converted into an image format before it prints, especially if you want to attach a colour space.
DPP has had "print from Raw" for quite a while, and I'm pretty certain that a conversion happens behind the scenes - this option simply allows the user to print without explicitly saving a tiff or jpeg first.
Can't imagine that Cap One would be any different - in fact I don't think it's possible to do it differently.0 -
Keith, I think we are on the same page. I read the same message in your last post as I did in mine. Sorry if I caused any confusion. 0 -
Ah - understood, Paul. 0
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