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  • BobRockefeller
    As best I understand it, CO applies defaults based on many things, including the camera and lens. Maybe other things.

    Do you find different defaults for the exact same image parameters (body, lens, ISO, aperture, etc.)?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="BobRockefeller" wrote:
    As best I understand it, CO applies defaults based on many things, including the camera and lens. Maybe other things.

    Do you find different defaults for the exact same image parameters (body, lens, ISO, aperture, etc.)?


    ....Yes, I find different defaults (+140/160/180) for the same lens on the same camera body (Canon 7D2 and L lens). Obviously the ISO and other settings vary as I use Manual mode.
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  • Michael Sonshine
    [quote="RedRobin" wrote:
    When viewing a newly imported RAW image before any adjustments are made, I notice that although usually the Sharpening Amount opens at 180 it occasionally opens at 140 or 160. I'm using a Canon 7D Mark II mostly with Canon 100-400mm L II mounted and not having any sharp focus problems. This also happened in CO8.

    Can anyone tell me why the Amount value varies, please?

    Otherwise I am finding that the CO9 Sharpening is very good and better than Smart Sharpening in Photoshop CS6 as it preserves a more natural look. I shoot wildlife.

    I can not answer your question but I thought that one more data point might be helpful.

    I just looked at some of my current and older catalogs to see what the sharpening settings have been and it turns out that they are all set to 180 for the imported raw files. This involves images taken with 2 cameras (Canon 5D3 and 60D) and 3 lenses (Tamron 150-600, Canon 24-105 and Sigma 12-24). The Tamron was only used with the crop camera and the other two lenses with the FF. Regardless, all of the default sharpening settings for imported raw images were set to 180 (which, by the way, seems just about right) so there is no variation for my camera/lens combinations.
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  • BobRockefeller
    All of my E-M1 images have the same default sharpening (200, 1.0, 1.0) regardless of the lens or exposure settings.
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  • Michael Sonshine
    [quote="BobRockefeller" wrote:
    All of my E-M1 images have the same default sharpening (200, 1.0, 1.0) regardless of the lens or exposure settings.

    For what it's worth:

    I looked for some xml file containing a sharpening value that might control how the sharpening is applied, but could not find one in either Library folder nor in the app container itself.

    I then removed all of the folders that CO uses to control its operation (so that it would operate as when initially installed) and restarted it. Again all of the raw sharpening settings were set to 180.

    I can only come to the conclusion that the sharpening setting for raw images is hardcoded somewhere at 180 and only varies if the user has created a style with a different value. In my experience non-raw files do not get a default raw setting as the tiffs CO imported (with all of the setup folders removed) were left at 0. Only the raw images were sharpened to 180. I am, of course, guessing and any contrary information would probably change my assumptions.
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  • dredlew
    Exploring the mysteries of sharpening a bit myself, came across this link:

    So turns out that this is related to various factors, among;
    In a shake-free image captured at the camera’s lowest standard ISO setting, Capture One will only sharpen gently where ultra-fine contrast exists—that is, where fine details have been lost due to demosaicing. The default settings leave everything else as it is.


    The article also mentions that;
    The overarching aim at this stage is to counterbalance the technical shortcomings of the image capture process and to prepare the image for further processing, not to apply sharpening fit for online or print output.


    I felt this was fairly important information to know, not sure why this is not part of the help pages of C1. Also don't know where the author of the book has the rather detailed information from and if there is more like that. If someone could point me to more in-depth info than the high-level online docs, that would be great.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I'm sure this has been recommended before: grab a copy of Sashi's new book (or eBook if you prefer) about C1. Extremely good book with lots of very good information.

    Relevant to this post, he describes the desirability of calibrating sharpness for each camera body and how to do it. This starts on p. 180 of the book. Note that the Phase One Blog has links for 40% off of the eBook.

    I'm finding that between the Image Professor's Blog and Sashi's book, C1 ends up being fairly well documented, and the combination is IMO better than C1's help (which is a good supplement).
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