Copy and Invert Mask links masks together - C1 11

Ian Montgomery

• 9. Dezember 2017 19:07

In C1 11 (image updated from C1 10 engine to C1 11 engine) after creating a masked layer ("flamingo") from the Color Editor, I create an additional empty layer("background layer") and copy the mask from flamingo, then invert that mask (I now have a mask covering everything except flamingo). I turn the background layer to B&W, everything is now grayscale including the flamingo part. I click on the flamingo layer and it too has the B&W check box. If I uncheck it on flamingo, it also unchecks it from background layer. It's as if the two layers are linked somehow. It completely screws up the B&W checkbox and what is shown.

I've tried a couple of different ways to get this working properly, but cannot, even with traditional (brush) masking. The part being masked is small relative to the rest of the image. I even tried changing the mask color to green in case the red of the object was somehow messing with the software. Nothing seems to change this behavior.

Anyone else seeing this?

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  Class A

  • 9. Dezember 2017 19:27

  The B&W treatment is not layer-specific.
  
  Almost all adjustments can be confined by a mask, but B&W treatment belongs to the exceptions.

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  SFA

  • 9. Dezember 2017 20:22

  As Class A has mentioned, the B&W tool is not currently Layer enabled so use of it will always apply to the "Background" at this time.

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  Ian Montgomery

  • 10. Dezember 2017 20:13

  Okay, thanks. Hopefully something soon to make it layer-aware.

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  SFA

  • 10. Dezember 2017 23:28

  [quote="NNN636205443741497662" wrote:
  Okay, thanks. Hopefully something soon to make it layer-aware.

  
  
  Out of interest and bearing in mind that the original tool is intended to be advantageous for totally B&W images rather than partial B&W images, how much benefit would there be for a B&W tool compared with simply de-saturating a layer to which suitable colour adjustments had previously (or even subsequently) been applied?
  
  Grant

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  Ian Montgomery

  • 11. Dezember 2017 22:18

  That's exactly how I ended up accomplishing it, desaturation. Just thought with the ability to create masks from color, it'd be a nice thing to have as the product continues to mature.

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  SFA

  • 11. Dezember 2017 22:27

  [quote="NNN636205443741497662" wrote:
  That's exactly how I ended up accomplishing it, desaturation. Just thought with the ability to create masks from color, it'd be a nice thing to have as the product continues to mature.

  
  
  I assume it will over time. It has in the past.
  
  It's interesting to compare the B&W tool approach to B&W and colour grading with what can be using the colour balance tool (wither at background or a layer level, then a layer for desaturation and experiment with the opacities.
  
  I assume the same for levels and curves although as yet I have not experimented with them.
  
  
  Grant

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