Archiving jobs
Curious how others are handling the archiving of large projects. I just finished a job and the RAW captures total about 28gb. Of course, there's still processing to do and then final retouched files on top of that.
If you break the files apart to burn to DVDs the session won't work in the future because all of the folders aren't there. Although, that's what I\"m currently doing. It just becomes confusing for others (employees) to then open the DVDs later and try to make sense of all the disks.
Anyone have a good system? I'd appreciate any tips.
Thanks!
If you break the files apart to burn to DVDs the session won't work in the future because all of the folders aren't there. Although, that's what I\"m currently doing. It just becomes confusing for others (employees) to then open the DVDs later and try to make sense of all the disks.
Anyone have a good system? I'd appreciate any tips.
Thanks!
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I have not found a better solution then trying to keep my sessions to less then 50 images ( P45 ) , keeping session folders smaller then 4 Gis and archive all the content to Hds ( external Sata box with multiple drives ) and also DVDs .
Thumbnails ( 230 K per capture ) and preview files ( 3 Megs / capture ) are quite heavy, and sometimes ( when I'm trigger happy above 50 images ) I would remove those just to keep the session folders smaller.
Those are rebuilded after session restart ( it takes slightly longer time )
Not removing other ( small ) capture files makes image settings retained .
That's my 5 cents0 -
I archive everything to Hard drives, that seems to work good.\\ 0 -
As an OS X user and a long time unix hacker, I love the underlying tools that OS X gives me. I use the cron and rsync programs to automate daily backups to an external drive, as well a network drive in my basement.
Here is the crontab entry for backing up my Desktop folders to one of my external firewire drives:
50 21 * * * /usr/local/bin/rsync --eahfs -av --exclude *.preview* --exclude *.thumbnail ~steve/Desktop /Volumes/300too/t-rex.backup/
An here is an explanation of the pieces of this entry:
50 21
this is the time the \"job\" is started (9:50 PM)
--eahfs
newer versions of rsync can back up the extended attributes of Mac HFS files (such as Finder labels, etc) as long as their copying between two HFS volumes
-av
tells rsync to use \"archive\" mode (basically back up everthing) and verbose mode
--exclude *.preview*
--exclude *.thumbnail
exclusions so that none of the extra C1Pro files get backed up (they will always be regenerated if necessary)0 -
Can we all just speek english on this forum...
I'm sorry, I don't speek technojargan.0 -
Unfortunately, I don't understand the jargon either. But, I do get that you're suggesting that I use external drives that automatically store your files.
Are you ever concerned about a power failure or some catastrophe that wipes out your files and you have no \"hard copy\" like DVDs? That's my reason for not chaining together a bunch of external hard drives.
Thanks for the input,
Bill0 -
Archiving has become cumbersome these days.
I usually shoot tethered to a PowerBook and save my sessions on an external FW800 drive.
This allows me to attach the FW800 to my desktop machine, which has a couple of 500Gb drives, and copy the sessions over to one of it's internal drives.
I do all my editing, exports & photoshop work off the desktop machine. Then, when the job is complete, I trash all unneeded RAW TIFs and offload the extire project to a third machine that has an AIT III tape drive and Retrospect running.
We run scheduled back-ups of that machine nightly.
The tapes are large and, with compression, hold quite a bit of data.
Also, when you do retrieve from tape, it will pull back the complete session, even if it is spread across multiple tapes.
Hope this helps
Brion0 -
I backup my jobs on a second removable drive that is only plugged in and running when I am backing up the primary drive.
Yes, that means that I need twice the disc space (actually a second drive) to back everything up. Then the backup drive gets put away somewhere else, preferably off-site.
If I'm squeezed for HD space, I will delete the thumbnails and the previews, but not the imagesettings.
An average sized job for me, captures and processed is between 10-15GB.
-catfell0 -
My workflow is very basic I think. On average job, I saved my captures into DVDs. It's only the raw file. Usually I need 2 DVDs for one job.
I still keep my session in the external hard disk. And working from it. Later I will save the (final)processed in DVDs.
I heard that people should make 2 copies of DVD. But I don't have time to do double back up. also, even DVD are cheap, if using hundreds will not make good business for me.
I will watch this thread carefully, hope to get more info. The one from Jann is nice tips 😊0 -
I work mainly in Fashion and each session is never less than 10 GB, and average would be 17GB.
I archive the full session on DVDs and keep only the \"choices\" client selected picts on an external HDD.
At first I was archiving everything on external HDD but I was filling up a 500GB HDD withing 2 months.0 -
I have been archiving to 2 sets of DVDs ,
the biggest disaDvantage is future migration to another media .
Recently We have been copying my old archive of 800 Cds to hadr drives
and my assistant is quiting because of that ( takes huge amount of time and it is BORING )
So now I archive to 1 set of DVDs and 2 sets on HD.
( so I have a backup off site )
Hd is only slightly more expensive ( around 60 % ) then DVDs
( If you stick to 300 Gig SATA drives ) but it is much more fun to deal with , takes less space etc .0 -
[quote="Jann Lipka" wrote:
Hd is only slightly more expensive ( around 60 % ) then DVDs
( If you stick to 300 Gig SATA drives ) but it is much more fun to deal with , takes less space etc .
300 gig SATA drives, here in Jakarta about USD 190.
75 verbatim DVDs (equivalent of 300gig) is less than USD 40.0 -
About the same here in Canada...
Western Digital 300GB Sata2 = 130$
Maxell 8x 4.7GB DVD-R = 60$
So to my standard it's not just slightly more expensive since 500GB les me 2 to 3 months.
At the end of the year, it's 70$ x 5 extra... just in storage... This is not slightly more expenive..
My opinion...0 -
Ok , I was wrong ,
The price is almost double for HD even here Sorry .
Still, archiving and backup is much more time consuming for DVDs.
I think it is worth it .
( said that I make a DVD copy anyway )
OTOH at least for processed files it is a dream to be able to
browse through 1500 Gig data 😊
And of course with large projects it is PIA to joggle with several DVDs
DVD read speed is not a great speed demon either.
For me : there is no going back to 2xDVD ...
Little more money counting -
Average shoot 2 DVDs = 1,8 $
against 3,6$ with SATA .
in the future data migration to - I don't know maybe BlueRay - DVD or similar will not be fun .0
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