HELP - I FACE A DAY'S REWORK
I have just spent most of the day keywording images in PhotoMechanic and embedding the data into the RAW files and adjusting the images for processing.
I have now discovered that C1Pro (4.8.3) seems to pick up the caption/keyword/etc data when it FIRST OPENS (actually when it creates the preview) the image file and stores it in the .cos file. That means any amendments I have made to the keywords after opening the image in C1Pro is lost when I process the file. I can find no way to force C1Pro to refresh the metadata from the RAW file once it is has created a .cos settings file.
I now face the task of either having to recaption all the images or I have to redo the adjustments depending on whether I recreate the .cos settings file. It means I have lost most of a day and I will be late getting these files to my client. I only discovered this after processing them and sitting down for an evening cleaning and checking the processed images.
Can ANYBODY suggest a way out of this problem?
I now begin to understand why I had variable results with IPTC pass through. It depended on exactly which order I did things. If it happens outside C1 after the image has been opened then C1 seem to ignore it! C1Pro has been useless for serious maintenance of IPTC data since v4 and V5 is if anything worse from initial tests - which is why I am not using it.
HELP PLEASE!!!!
I have now discovered that C1Pro (4.8.3) seems to pick up the caption/keyword/etc data when it FIRST OPENS (actually when it creates the preview) the image file and stores it in the .cos file. That means any amendments I have made to the keywords after opening the image in C1Pro is lost when I process the file. I can find no way to force C1Pro to refresh the metadata from the RAW file once it is has created a .cos settings file.
I now face the task of either having to recaption all the images or I have to redo the adjustments depending on whether I recreate the .cos settings file. It means I have lost most of a day and I will be late getting these files to my client. I only discovered this after processing them and sitting down for an evening cleaning and checking the processed images.
Can ANYBODY suggest a way out of this problem?
I now begin to understand why I had variable results with IPTC pass through. It depended on exactly which order I did things. If it happens outside C1 after the image has been opened then C1 seem to ignore it! C1Pro has been useless for serious maintenance of IPTC data since v4 and V5 is if anything worse from initial tests - which is why I am not using it.
HELP PLEASE!!!!
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I had a speedy response from support but it offered no help - the message was essentially: it is not good practice so you will have to live with it. Do it how we say! 0 -
I would be tempted to try a couple of things. The .cos files are text files, so maybe a text editor could be used somehow. But I would probably make a second copy of the raw files and rename them so they sort next to the originals (_W7M4176.CR2 renamed to _W7M4176_1.CR2). Then I would go through and copy the settings/paste the settings from one set to the other. 0 -
Martin3,
My suggestion: with PhotoMechanic you can export the IPTC metadata for each image individually into an XMP file. Import each XMP file into each respective image you processed with Capture One. This can be done with PM, Photoshop or Bridge for example. Nothing lost, just a one time extra effort.
The behavior of Capture One you described (metadata is read during first opening) has been there since v1.0. Further no comments. Good luck!0 -
Thanks Paul
In fact what I did was to copy the converted TIF files into the same directory as RAW, sorted them so that the TIF and RAW were paired up and then stepped through in the PhotoMechanic IIPTC pane and for each pair did a copy,advance,paste,save and advance. Took me a an hour or so but it worked - 4 key strokes per image.
In version 3 I did not notice the load metadata at create preview stage because the IPTC text editing was pretty much as good as anything then available so I did it all in C1. It is only since v4 that I have had to use PhotoMechanic however in other applications such as Lightroom it is possible to "load from file" which refreshes the metadata from the original RAW image (or at least it does in the beta of v3).
The best thing Phas One could do is abandon their own metadata handling and come to a deal with CameraBits to do a PhotoMechanic plug-in. Now that would give us the best of both worlds!
I still think C1Pro is the best RAW converter and despite the reservations n=many have about workflowI still find it the quickest for adjusting images. Believe me since version 4 and recently 5 came out I have looked at pretty well everything else on the market.0
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