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Guidance Lightroom, NX, Apreture, C1, Bibble, stuff

sanzari
I trialed the Capture One Pro using NEF files from a Nikon D2X and D200. The images seemed to create so much more detail and I know the algorithms are awesome. So quality is not the issue.

I spoke to a trainer of C1 and he assured me he used it for everything for workflow, interesting used iView as well.

I currently use bridge to sort out the images first, which ones i like. I then moved them to my trial copy of C1 to process into TIFF or JPEG and then finally back in Photoshop i did adjustments. this seems a little absurd since Aperture and Lightroom claim to do everything.

I have not trialed these as i am fed up looking through products for 30 days and then expecting to fork out 300 quid to then learn how to really use it.

My question to the forum is As a wedding photographer and casual travel photographer can C1 provide me with an import tool where i can see large thumbs in a lightbox type arrangement, delete and adjust the ones I want to keep. Output them into different sizes ( seemed the trial only allowed me to resize on edge the other edge was ration locked) and then use meta data to find the things there after.

C1 is 4 years old and it appears others have taken over in management and functionality, is my impression wrong? Help me justify the expense, i already have iView, Photoshop CS2.

Thanks sounds like a winge but I loved the tool just did not have enought time to play with it to do the real workflow and now I cannot reinstal it on a MAC. Pc version is different so I did not bother with a alternative instal there.

thanks a million hopefully my first post of many, some more info delivery than request

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  • sanzari
    15 views and not a single flame or comment, you guys are dedicated ! :0-)
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  • olo1
    well, why should one flame? 😉

    The point is that you are talking about two different things you would like to have in one...
    C1 is a sw which offers you RAW capture and development/output, nothing more and nothing less.
    You can choose from many different settings for the output with colourprofiles in Tiff and JPG.
    The major point in C1 is tethered shooting (IMHO) because other software can upload RAWs too but the way C1 handles them, is in my believes 2nd to none...

    In terms of selecting, choosing from your shots Aperture is surely a good choice even though I would never need it. But that is my personal opinion....

    cheers Nicolas
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  • sanzari
    Nicholas,

    thanks for some of your thoughts. I do not shoot tethered as I am not a studio bod, I will hang on for some more thoughts.

    I understand from your comments that C1 is not going to give me Digital Asset Management but for sorting a large collection of images into likes and dislikes do you see C1 giving you that facility longer term ?

    This thread is becoming a justification campaign, and for that I am sorry to bore the hardcore users. I am not a troll as other forums talk about.

    Fortunately I have FOCUS in a few weeks in the UK, I am drawing up a list of todo's and hoefully will get a demo from someone who knows then I guess I have to learn another product.

    I am trying to go upmarket with my wedding and lifestyle, so I am looking at how to play with profiles to get funky affects and different styles of images. Not sure if C1 can do this through profiles ?

    thanks to all that bothered to look. I am sure we will cross paths again
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  • olo1
    Hi!

    I hear what you are saying and I do agree in some aspects.
    With C1 you can select and mark favorites, even give them a ranking....

    In terms of "effects" you can do quite a bit and even make your own profiles and save them within C1...

    Of course this is not as nifty as within Photoshop. So it is entirely up to you which way you want go...

    For me C1 ist just a tool, doing the basics with RAWs. The fine tuning always takes place later on on my MAC in my Studio with a calibrated monitor and within Photoshop....

    just my 2c

    cheers Nicolas
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  • Cannon
    Have you tried the Photoshop CS3 beta? The raw processing is greatly improved and is basically the same engine as Lightroom. Bridge is also much improved in the feature department. You can preview multiple images at once, place files into stacks, and the interface is more configurable than before. They also included a function to import images from cards. You could do this before with a third party script, but it didn't work as well. It is still in beta, so it's a little buggy. It doesn't cost anything to try out though.

    I tried four or five different raw converters and I liked C1 the best. I do think that the interface is outdated though. I do like the folder based organizational scheme of C1 compared to the database type file management of Aperture and Lightroom.
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  • sanzari
    I know this is a C1 forum and probably get scrubbed for talking PS C3, does it overwrite existing CS2 when you instal ??

    How do you incorporate teh C1 functionality . The other thought I had was use C1 LE to do straight convert and then use bridge and CS for exverything else, however that does increase workflow.

    Can you share your use of the two products and how they work together for you

    thanks a million
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  • Cannon
    CS3 doesn't overrwrite CS2. Adobe recommends that you hang on to CS2 during the beta period in case you find bugs that you can't live with.

    I tend to use C1 in certain situations and Bridge/Photoshop in others. I like to use C1 on set, and when I need to deal with large numbers of images. It's fast, you can shoot tethered(if you have a Canon or Phase and that's what you're into) and it's easy to organize and process lots of images. I like that you can download and eject a card from within the program, but I wish that you had the option to download selected pictures. It's kind of a pain when you have to download 60 pictures off of a card just to see the last one that you shot.

    I generally use Bridge and Photoshop when I'm working on stuff for myself. I do a lot of Photoshop work on my pics and being able to place smart objects to merge or combine images is just easier when you start in Photoshop. Also when dealing with single images, you don't have to go through the extra steps of converting a pic in C1.
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