ICC profile not showing in the View Proof or Output recipes

peter Frings

• 28. Oktober 2016 08:59

Hey all,

I have an output color profile (for EPSON P7000) copied to ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/ and it shows up in the profile lists in the Print dialog (shown under "Others"). So, C1 has found it.

If I select it in the Print dialog box it also shows up in the View Proof Profile (shown under "Print Profile"), but not elsewhere (i.e., if I have another profile selected in the Print dialog, my profile is not shown in the Proof Profile list — with viewing All).

Whatever I do, it's not showing up in the ICC Profile list of an Output Recipe (showing All, not just the recommended). I've restarted C1, verified the profile with ColorSync Utility, ran 3 times clockwise around the table backwards, but to no avail.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Peter.

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  HansB

  • 28. Oktober 2016 10:00

  Do you mean a paper profile?
  
  If yes, this is nothing you can use for proofing an screen.
  
  A paper profile tells the printer how much ink to use and what color to print to match a calibrated screen output. Based on the paper base chosen and paper profile set, the printer driver can do an emulation, but it doesn't have the quality of a measured proof profile.
  
  A proof profile shows the result of the paper and ink combination you are using. It is measured on a real output, usually color patches. Some combinations cannot show darkest blacks, most papers are not clean bright white. The proof will show you.
  
  Both are not created as output profiles for files.
  
  So there are different profiles for displaying, saving and printing, and CO will only show valid ones for the actual use.
  
  Hope this helps a bit.
  
  
  Regards,
  Hans

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  peter Frings

  • 28. Oktober 2016 11:12

  Hi Hans,
  
  Thanks for replying.
  
  The profile in question is a 'real output profile', i.e., printed on real paper with a real printer, measured with a real spectrophotometer and turned into an output profile.
  
  So, there might be something wrong with out, but the ColorSync utility finds it OK and the RIP can use it for ripping. But, to C1's defence, LR doesn't offer the profile for proofing, either.
  
  Odd...
  
  Cheers,
  Peter.

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  HansB

  • 28. Oktober 2016 11:39

  Sounds like you created a paper profile (class = 'output'). It will only show up in the print dialog. If you change it's class manually, it will show completely wrong colors on display and in files.
  
  It will not show up for file export, because it isn't a profile for exporting. And it will not show up in proofing (class = 'display'), because it isn't a proof profile.
  
  ColorSync has nothing to complain about, because it's a valid and correct 'output' profile. It wouldn't complain about 'input' and 'display' either.
  
  In some calibration tools you can choose what to create, a proof profile or a paper profile. Maybe you can look for this option in your software.
  
  
  Regards,
  Hans

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  peter Frings

  • 1. November 2016 12:14

  Hans,
  
  thanks for the suggestion. I'll check the profiling software.
  
  Cheers,
  Peter.

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