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Import directly from camera

Rob
Please please please tell me that Capture One is capable of importing images directly from a camera via USB like EVERY OTHER imaging and DAM application. I know it can tether, shoot and capture, but can't seem to figure out how to read images off the card while it's still in the camera. It'll be a huge annoyance if I need to use the card reader for every import. Fingers crossed.

Thanks.
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  • Benjamin Liddle
    For most cameras, this isn't possible. This comes down to the communication protocol between the camera and software- to read the files "off the camera", the camera would have to be attached as a glorified card reader (Mass Storage or MTP) rather than an imaging device (PTP).
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  • Permanently deleted user
    As far as I know communication via PTP protocol is provided by OSX. At least I can easily read files from any of my Nikon cameras with Apple software (and some other image processing software using the OSX-driver). Unfortunately that doesn't work with CO but Photo Mechanics is not any better here.

    I normally have a small reader with me and if that fails use OSX software to transfer the files before importing them into CO.

    Frank
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  • Permanently deleted user
    I understand that in the odd situation of not having a card reader (or lost a dongle since apple 'innovated' with their thunderbolt 3), connecting the camera to the computer can be your last resort.

    PTP is inherently dog slow however, because it relies on a client to client transfer protocol emulation that uses resources in both; the starved embedded system of the camera and the computer. Also, some manufacturers implement worse than others.

    Connecting a storage device directly to the computer is exponentially faster and more reliable.

    I never complained about this lack of support because in the time it takes to offload 16GB over PTP I can walk to the store, buy groceries and a card reader, be back to put the kettle on and even make me some tea.

    That if it hasn't crashed midway.
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  • Rob
    I'm still not convinced this shouldn't be supported from within Capture One, but I found a workaround by using Image Capture on the Mac. Image Capture of course supports P2P and allows you to specify what to do with files after importing, and if you select "open with Capture One", it somehow brings up the import window in C1, images already loaded, all by itself. Unexpectedly, it doesn't even dump a duplicate file in some obscure place on the hard drive. How nice.

    This might be worth including in the official documentation in case anyone else runs into this problem.

    With my newer cameras I can insert the SD card directly, but my older 5Dii uses a CF card, and the only CF card reader I have can't read cards over 16GB. I'm stubborn and don't want to buy another card reader when the camera can be connected directly to the computer. Incidentally, it doesn't seem to take much longer than importing files from an SD card.

    Thanks for all the input.
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  • Permanently deleted user
    [quote="gusferlizi" wrote:
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    PTP is inherently dog slow however, because it relies on a client to client transfer protocol emulation that uses resources in both; the starved embedded system of the camera and the computer. Also, some manufacturers implement worse than others.

    Connecting a storage device directly to the computer is exponentially faster and more reliable....


    Unfortunately at least regarding speed it is the other way round. Importing directly from my camera (D850) via USB using Image Capture takes 100s for 85 images. Using a Lexar Professional Reader and a 440 MB/s Lexar XQD card Photomechanic needs about 45% more time and Capture One needs a bit more than twice the time of Image Capture.

    I would not use direct import all the time but at least it would be a nice option if one is in a hurry.

    Feature request has been submitted some time ago.

    Best
    Frank
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  • SFA
    [quote="FL" wrote:
    [quote="gusferlizi" wrote:
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    PTP is inherently dog slow however, because it relies on a client to client transfer protocol emulation that uses resources in both; the starved embedded system of the camera and the computer. Also, some manufacturers implement worse than others.

    Connecting a storage device directly to the computer is exponentially faster and more reliable....


    Unfortunately at least regarding speed it is the other way round. Importing directly from my camera (D850) via USB using Image Capture takes 100s for 85 images. Using a Lexar Professional Reader and a 440 MB/s Lexar XQD card Photomechanic needs about 45% more time and Capture One needs a bit more than twice the time of Image Capture.

    I would not use direct import all the time but at least it would be a nice option if one is in a hurry.

    Feature request has been submitted some time ago.

    Best
    Frank


    Are those three programs all doing the same things during their import process?
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  • Permanently deleted user
    Yes, with one little difference (see below):
    - same images from XQD-card, either in reader or in camera
    - transfer to the same folder nothing else but CO is also adding them to the catalog but
    - no adjustments, no keywords...

    Adding the transferred files to the catalog independently is a matter of a few second so this does not explain the difference.

    Best
    Frank
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