User of the new fuji Sensor - compressed RAW
We now wait for over a year for support of compressed RAW files.
Meanwhile, C1 is clearly the only nameable converter that does not understand the compressed files.So slowly the faith is missing that the support will come.
How does the solution for other Fuji users out: change to another program or simply uncompressed RAWs use and continue to wait.
Meanwhile, C1 is clearly the only nameable converter that does not understand the compressed files.So slowly the faith is missing that the support will come.
How does the solution for other Fuji users out: change to another program or simply uncompressed RAWs use and continue to wait.
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This issue has been already discussed there:
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=25545
Phase One knows it and hopefully will solve it very soon, they say.
For the time being, I think the best is working with uncompressed files. I am not sure other softwares are better at opening Fuji files.
Cheers,
Robert0 -
Well, instead of waiting for more lame excuses of C1, I searched and found. True, the outcome in terms of highlight recovery, that makes C1/Fuji cooperation shine for me, is not so easy to get from the competition.
But also not impossible. This "soon we will come with a new version" or "we're working hard on it, but legal problems cannot be solved by Capture One for over a year" stuff looks a bit, hmmm, doubtful, when even 40$ apps do understand compressed Fuji RAW.
Some of these apps have better or at least interesting features, nearly all not such a bad UI, so I really don't know if I burn another 120$ on such a lazy company.0 -
[quote="NN634867929874879284UL" wrote:
Well, instead of waiting for more lame excuses of C1, I searched and found. True, the outcome in terms of highlight recovery, that makes C1/Fuji cooperation shine for me, is not so easy to get from the competition.
But also not impossible. This "soon we will come with a new version" or "we're working hard on it, but legal problems cannot be solved by Capture One for over a year" stuff looks a bit, hmmm, doubtful, when even 40$ apps do understand compressed Fuji RAW.
Some of these apps have better or at least interesting features, nearly all not such a bad UI, so I really don't know if I burn another 120$ on such a lazy company.
This "lazy" comment is baseless and pretty spiteful. Please refrain from venting on the forum.0 -
[quote="NN634867929874879284UL" wrote:
Well, instead of waiting for more lame excuses of C1, I searched and found. True, the outcome in terms of highlight recovery, that makes C1/Fuji cooperation shine for me, is not so easy to get from the competition.
But also not impossible. This "soon we will come with a new version" or "we're working hard on it, but legal problems cannot be solved by Capture One for over a year" stuff looks a bit, hmmm, doubtful, when even 40$ apps do understand compressed Fuji RAW.
Some of these apps have better or at least interesting features, nearly all not such a bad UI, so I really don't know if I burn another 120$ on such a lazy company.
Dude, so why are you here? Don't like C1? don't use it. Don't like the attitude or the answer that PhaseOne is giving? Don't use their product. I don't know why you write such useless comment on here. Use the 40$ app you like and be happy...0 -
I'm sure that Phase one software engineers take their job seriously, and this is reflected in the software.
Certain tools have been getting better and better, e.g. the new brightness tool, that superbly reflects modern image editing. The fact that these updates to essential tools continue, says enough about the dedication to the quality of CO1.
However, for those waiting for an update to include e.g. a new camera or lens, or critical bugfixes for coding errors that have a large impact on performance, it is asking increasing patience, as the updates seem to take longer and longer.
The last update was 9 weeks ago. Assuming an update with bugfixes and new camera/file-type/lens support will come in a few weeks, we are nearing a three month span for updates. That is a long time, if the last update just missed your newly bought camera. So I can understand why e.g. a Fuji user is experiencing some stress over whether the next update will in fact add support for compressed raw. If not, it might well be another three month's wait
Chris0 -
Perhaps the beta program might be of interest... hint hint 😉
www.phaseone.com/beta0 -
[quote="alececco" wrote:
Dude, so why are you here? Don't like C1? don't use it. Don't like the attitude or the answer that PhaseOne is giving? Don't use their product. I don't know why you write such useless comment on here. Use the 40$ app you like and be happy...
Aaah, another forum cliché coming up. Using Fuji for yourself or just thundering against critics? One year waiting for this compressed RAW support, others do, C1 support hid three times behind "license problems, case closed" replies during the last 6 months. You don't have to understand that a customer who paid for the most expensive RAW converter in the market expects a bit more value for money. But you also don't have to tell anyone, "if you don't like it, move on" - it falls back on your own comment: If you don't like my critic, just move on 😂
I am here because I got 80+ results on the search "fuji compressed" and I was curious how others think about. Even if "others" include types like you 😄0 -
[quote="NN634867929874879284UL" wrote:
[quote="alececco" wrote:
Dude, so why are you here? Don't like C1? don't use it. Don't like the attitude or the answer that PhaseOne is giving? Don't use their product. I don't know why you write such useless comment on here. Use the 40$ app you like and be happy...
Aaah, another forum cliché coming up. Using Fuji for yourself or just thundering against critics? One year waiting for this compressed RAW support, others do, C1 support hid three times behind "license problems, case closed" replies during the last 6 months. You don't have to understand that a customer who paid for the most expensive RAW converter in the market expects a bit more value for money. But you also don't have to tell anyone, "if you don't like it, move on" - it falls back on your own comment: If you don't like my critic, just move on 😂
I am here because I got 80+ results on the search "fuji compressed" and I was curious how others think about. Even if "others" include types like you 😄
So if all Fuji users only want to use the "compressed" rather than the uncompressed files, why do Fuji bother to continue with the uncompressed? What is their reason for making their customers suffer unnecessarily large RAW files?0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
So if all Fuji users only want to use the "compressed" rather than the uncompressed files, why do Fuji bother to continue with the uncompressed? What is their reason for making their customers suffer unnecessarily large RAW files?
I don't know if "all Fuji users" would like to use compressed RAW. In each camera user group are die-hards who think nothing can be better than everything uncompressed. However, I use all Nikons with losless compressed 14 bit RAW and I just like to save 60 % diskspace for Fuji as well. Which for all converters I tried so far comes at the price of waiting longer until the files are open to edit, although not 60 % longer 😊
It's no only the lack of compressed RAW support. Of all the supported lens profiles, for Fuji currently exist only the 3 Zeiss Touit profiles and although the one for the 12 mm helps a lot, these lenses don't get firmware udpates like the other genuine Fuji ones. Well, in terms of AF I don't mind to get no update for such a wide angle, but I wonder why the rest of the Fuji lenses so far are/were ignored.0 -
AFAIK C1 doesn't need lens profiles for Fuji X. It reads the embedded correction-data in the image file and applies it.
Johannes0 -
[quote="JohannesR" wrote:
AFAIK C1 doesn't need lens profiles for Fuji X. It reads the embedded correction-data in the image file and applies it.
Johannes
Really? And the Touits don't have this correction data? Doesn't sound too impossible.
It's funny, just one day after I complained massively in this forum - and the three support cases went closed quickly - these guys pop up with a really, really cool state of the art beta-version. The have me back on their hook although the UI... but a good thing with the beta is also: On a MacBook its' much better and easier to handle than on the big screen of an iMac. Hmm.0 -
[quote="JJ_SO" wrote:
Aaah, another forum cliché coming up.
Here's another one: grow up.
Nobody here owes you anything, and snotty, overinflated-sense-of-entitlement drama queens don't thrive on this forum.0 -
Please, even though You all might not agree with each other, please keep a proper, civilized tone. 0 -
[quote="JJ_SO" wrote:
It's funny, just one day after I complained massively in this forum - and the three support cases went closed quickly - these guys pop up with a really, really cool state of the art beta-version. .
I hate to break it to ya, but there's a vocal group that have been complaining here about not having Compressed Raw support (and other functions) for xtrans sensors for a long long time. Your timing just happens to line-up with the beta announcement.0 -
[quote="rckstflbn" wrote:
[quote="JJ_SO" wrote:
Your timing just happens to line-up with the beta announcement.
And people ignoring NDAs.0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="rckstflbn" wrote:
[quote="JJ_SO" wrote:
Your timing just happens to line-up with the beta announcement.
And people ignoring NDAs.
It was announced, by the Phase One team, on this forum, that the new bêta version would solve the issue.......0 -
[quote="SFA" wrote:
[quote="rckstflbn" wrote:
[quote="JJ_SO" wrote:
Your timing just happens to line-up with the beta announcement.
And people ignoring NDAs.
There's also posts in multiple threads here regarding Fuji issues that are pointing C1 users to where they can sign up for the beta. So, this isn't entirely 'the first rule about fight club'.
The posts specifically say:
Jim_DK wrote:
We released a beta today that (if you are following this thread) might be interesting.
Sign up here:
http://www.phaseone.com/beta
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