Color differences between preview (C1Pro) and output (CS4)
We are seeing apparent color differences between the preview in C1Pro and the output as viewed in Photohop CS4. The output appears to be less saturated than the preview in C1Pro.
All our systems are color calibrated.
C1Pro output settings :
-8 bit uncompressed TIF
-Adobe 1998 RGB
-no sharpening
Photoshop CS4 color settings :
-working RGB : Adobe 1998 RGB
-proof setup : working CMYK (but proofing is turned off)
Body : Phase One 645AF
Back : P20+
Systems : 10.5 Leopard.
Screens : dual Eizo CG210 calibrated using Eye-One display on Colornavigator 5.2
Anyone have any ideas ?
Tom.
All our systems are color calibrated.
C1Pro output settings :
-8 bit uncompressed TIF
-Adobe 1998 RGB
-no sharpening
Photoshop CS4 color settings :
-working RGB : Adobe 1998 RGB
-proof setup : working CMYK (but proofing is turned off)
Body : Phase One 645AF
Back : P20+
Systems : 10.5 Leopard.
Screens : dual Eizo CG210 calibrated using Eye-One display on Colornavigator 5.2
Anyone have any ideas ?
Tom.
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can the "rendering intent" and other Adobe options (EDIT -> COLOR SETTINGS -> CONVERSION OPTIONS in CS4/Win) be a reason, I mean CS4 renders "working RGB" to your display color space differently that C1 does... check what you have there. 0 -
Both are set to perceptual, so that's not the problem. 0 -
Hi Tom,
Check that your proof profile in Capture One is the same as your output. This is in the View menu. Also check that CS4 is not setup to desaturate images on the monitor.0 -
CS4 is set not to desaturate on screen.
Proofing profile is same as recipe.0 -
[quote="Tom" wrote:
Both are set to perceptual, so that's not the problem.
there are other options in that dialog box too - see the reply from P1 above (desaturation)0 -
[quote="Tom" wrote:
CS4 is set not to desaturate on screen.
Proofing profile is same as recipe.
how about conversion engine Adobe ACE vs MS ICM ? try to change between them ? may be you have some other 3rd party color management software installed ?0 -
[quote="Jon" wrote:
Hi Tom,
Check that your proof profile in Capture One is the same as your output. This is in the View menu. Also check that CS4 is not setup to desaturate images on the monitor.
I got the same problem on CS4 + Eizo ColorEdge 210.
Color in Capture 4.6.1 is different from TIFF open in CS4, ligher and less contrast.
Capture 3.7.x never have this problem.
Kitty0 -
I'm stumped.
We have 4 identical setups and I can only reproduce the problem on one of these machines (using the exact same session on a USB stick).
I've checked and re-checked CS4 color settings and C1Pro preferences and am unable to find any obvious differences.0 -
I suspect the problem may be with your monitor profile perhaps? Either way create a support case and we can get to the bottom of it. 0 -
See my post here on similar symptom which turned out to be a broken monitor profile (?)
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=65150 -
I have the same problem on a Mac (OSX 10.5.6 and C1 416), the difference in lightness & saturation is not a lot, but it is VERY annoying.
I'm beginning to believe it has to do with the darker grey background (GUI) C1 4.x has compared to C1 3.7...0 -
EDIT : problem not solved. I suspect CS4 is defaulting to a generic RGB profile, reason yet unknown. With help from Phase One Support I finally tracked down the cause of my particular problem.
The root cause was the fact that on a number of our workstations, our standard color settings file (*.csf) for photoshop had been loaded from a network drive, apparently making photoshop dependant on the availability of that drive, which is not always mounted.
Somehow photoshop was defaulting to an unknown profile. Weird.
I solved the problem by copying the color settings file locally and reloading it in photoshop.0 -
Out of curiosity I installed CS3 next to CS4 on the machine exhibiting this behavior and I found that CS3 rendered images similarly to C1Pro.
I found that by unchecking "Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles" in CS4, the images were correctly rendered. Why, I do not know. Yet.0 -
[quote="Tom" wrote:
Out of curiosity I installed CS3 next to CS4 on the machine exhibiting this behavior and I found that CS4 was rendering images correctly.
I found that by unchecking "Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles" in CS4, the images were correctly rendered. Why, I do not know. Yet.
Does the problem color mismatch between C1 v.4 and PSCS4 solve?
I still have problem so I still use old 3.7.x
How to solve this problem on Mac?
Kitty0 -
This whole issue probably has something to do with a broken / incorrect monitor profile, the cause probably being buggy calibration software from Eizo. 0 -
[quote="kitty " wrote:
[quote="Jon" wrote:
Hi Tom,
Check that your proof profile in Capture One is the same as your output. This is in the View menu. Also check that CS4 is not setup to desaturate images on the monitor.
I got the same problem on CS4 + Eizo ColorEdge 210.
Color in Capture 4.6.1 is different from TIFF open in CS4, ligher and less contrast.
Capture 3.7.x never have this problem.
Kitty
You never had differences from 3.x to photoshop?? That would be the first i know that had no differences. The developed pics where always a third to heavy in photoshop.0 -
Yes, v.3 is not 100% correct but quite acceptable for me.
Iit seems color and contrast in v.4 has more difference.0 -
[quote="Tom" wrote:
unchecking "Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles" in CS4, the images were correctly rendered.
I too have the same problem of color bewteen CS4/CS3 and C1Pro, can you tell me where is this setting? ("Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles")
Thanks!0 -
[quote="Nicolas1" wrote:
[quote="Tom" wrote:
unchecking "Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles" in CS4, the images were correctly rendered.
I too have the same problem of color bewteen CS4/CS3 and C1Pro, can you tell me where is this setting? ("Compensate for Scene-referred Profiles")
Thanks!
color settings dialog -> click more options button -> you will see it0 -
Thanks Dee!
But it didn't change anything.
Colors are still less saturated and slightly less red in CS4 than in C1Pro…0 -
Is this the same issue as I was having with my Canon 1Ds Mark III? An image shot with my Mark II appears the same opened side by side on the same monitor in C1Pro3 and Pro4. The same image shot with my Mark III also opened side by side in Pro3 and Pro4.6 on the same monitor appears overly saturated and contrasty in Pro4.6.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=6382
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