Capture One Pro 20??
I just got an email from Phase One announcing pre-orders for Capture One Pro 20. I thought C1 was at version 12 right now. I'm confused.
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Don't worry, you haven't missed 8 other versions in between. They have probably changed their naming strategy. 0 -
Hi,
You could find more (?) information there:
https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003088138-Capture-One-20-FAQ
Robert0 -
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is? 0 -
[quote="Emile" wrote:
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is?
Pre-ordering is actually, "Paying Now" rather than provide credit details and take the money when the product is ready.0 -
[quote="DAndison" wrote:
[quote="Emile" wrote:
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is?
Pre-ordering is actually, "Paying Now" rather than provide credit details and take the money when the product is ready.
I'm fine with that but I only see options to buy v12, which I already own (like v11, v10, v9 etc all the way down to v3). Entering my serial # on the upgrade page doesn't do anything either. It's only some $30 off but I'd rather buy two bottles of wine with it 😄0 -
[quote="Emile" wrote:
[quote="DAndison" wrote:
[quote="Emile" wrote:
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is?
Pre-ordering is actually, "Paying Now" rather than provide credit details and take the money when the product is ready.
I'm fine with that but I only see options to buy v12, which I already own (like v11, v10, v9 etc all the way down to v3). Entering my serial # on the upgrade page doesn't do anything either. It's only some $30 off but I'd rather buy two bottles of wine with it 😄
Not sure where you need to go as I received the email with the 20% off for pre-order. I'll not be taking it up though. Been using it since C1 70 -
[quote="fatihayoglu" wrote:
They have probably changed their naming strategy.
Hmm... So the number, 20, might be the year it comes/came out.0 -
[quote="Emile" wrote:
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is?
https://www.captureone.com/en/store/pre-order?utm_source=marketo&utm_medium=email&utm_term=retention-pro-e01&utm_campaign=c1-1911-c1-20-pre-order&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRkaFpEZzFaVGt5T1RSbSIsInQiOiJIY0wwSkVYWVJ5SGtjam5PWjNWMzlMWVY0KzgzRStpZWxGYityNlhUXC94dnUxNEhsZHJHem1LekUxOUs4RUxpWnpOZkJxTHFLNHVBa1Qza1FKN25jTVdsVkp2Q25kUVdRbDR5Q2UzS2NmQUhvXC9oa1hINlF0N2c1em52ejV1a0FpIn0%3D0 -
Hi,
Anybody knows what going to be new in C1 ver 20?
I got pre-order link, but want to know if I should upgrade.
Thank you!0 -
Phase One don't pre-announce what is in new versions, and any beta tester who might know is prevented from telling you by a non-disclosure agreement.
Ian0 -
I just downloaded Beta version about 5 minutes ago and opened a session to give it a test run. In 5 minutes of use all I can say is... totally worth it. (Y) 0 -
[quote="tenmangu81" wrote:
[quote="Emile" wrote:
I didn't get that email but am interested in 20% off when pre-ordering. Nothing to be found on the website either. Anyone knows what the deal is?
https://www.captureone.com/en/store/pre-order?utm_source=marketo&utm_medium=email&utm_term=retention-pro-e01&utm_campaign=c1-1911-c1-20-pre-order&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWlRkaFpEZzFaVGt5T1RSbSIsInQiOiJIY0wwSkVYWVJ5SGtjam5PWjNWMzlMWVY0KzgzRStpZWxGYityNlhUXC94dnUxNEhsZHJHem1LekUxOUs4RUxpWnpOZkJxTHFLNHVBa1Qza1FKN25jTVdsVkp2Q25kUVdRbDR5Q2UzS2NmQUhvXC9oa1hINlF0N2c1em52ejV1a0FpIn0%3D
Thanks! Pre-ordered!0 -
Great to see Capture 1 been upgraded to Capture 1 20 However looking at the information. Only new owners who buy in October get a free upgrade from 12 to 20. Does that mean that all loyal followers of Capture 1/10/11/12 have to pay to upgrade?
Hope Phaseone are not going down the Insurance Company line, giving only special deals to new customers only????0 -
[quote="Paul Richards Leeds UK" wrote:
Great to see Capture 1 been upgraded to Capture 1 20 However looking at the information. Only new owners who buy in October get a free upgrade from 12 to 20. Does that mean that all loyal followers of Capture 1/10/11/12 have to pay to upgrade?
Hope Phaseone are not going down the Insurance Company line, giving only special deals to new customers only????
Generally speaking the price to upgrade from a previous version is lower than the price to buy from new. (As is the case with many varieties of software.) The free upgrade has often been the policy for customers who bought very shortly before the new version appeared, who would otherwise feel somewhat justifiably aggrieved.
Ian0 -
[quote="Paul Richards Leeds UK" wrote:
Great to see Capture 1 been upgraded to Capture 1 20 However looking at the information. Only new owners who buy in October get a free upgrade from 12 to 20. Does that mean that all loyal followers of Capture 1/10/11/12 have to pay to upgrade?
Hope Phaseone are not going down the Insurance Company line, giving only special deals to new customers only????
I think the point here is that anyone, new customer or old customer upgrading, is being advised in advance about the policy and how it will be applied.
In past years this was not the case and for anyone who bought just before the grace period that was offered (Usually 30 days prior to the new version being announced and available) that was somewhat annoying. "Just before" being 2 days (for example) one could see their point somewhat although in this on-line era of 'flash sales' for just about everything and anything we should maybe expect to have some disappointments and some wins based on the timing of our decisions. If the purchase date was 2 months before then I think there is less of a case for being annoyed with the vendor. After all the update is not compulsory (from C1's point of view).
This year it seems that the marketing is taking a different approach to advising people about what is happening, doing so in advance and so confirming the 'grace' period for buying V12 but getting V20 when it is released or at some later date should one prefer.
I don't see that as an "Insurance company" trick.
In any case the trick with in insurance company is to renegotiate or change supplier where possible. Something you are forced to do, usually, by a legal requirement of by the terms of borrowing to fund the purchase. That is hardly the case with a perpetual license for C1 whereby you can continue to use what you have for as long as you like as fas as Phase is concerned.
As for "pay to upgrade" - Ian3's answer covers the question.
With the supply agreement for some other applications (notably any that are subscription only) you pay anyway, there is no choice.
HTH.
Grant0 -
I have C1 12 Sony version... Can I purchase the upgrade to C20 normal Pro version?? 0 -
[quote="efradera" wrote:
I have C1 12 Sony version... Can I purchase the upgrade to C20 normal Pro version??
Normally if you log in to your account you will find the upgrade options available to you.
Whether that applies in this case as of now I don't know - the required programming may not be in place.
This is a user to user forum so unless someone from Phase drops buy and is authorised to answer the question you may not get an answer. If you really need to know crate a support case for the appropriate enquiry type and get the oinfomraiton directly from Phase.
HTH.
Grant0 -
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Phase One don't pre-announce what is in new versions, and any beta tester who might know is prevented from telling you by a non-disclosure agreement.
Ian
That's is a bit unethical. You ask me to pay in advance blindly for something I do not what I will be getting?0 -
[quote="NN636010587404603493UL" wrote:
[quote="Ian3" wrote:
Phase One don't pre-announce what is in new versions, and any beta tester who might know is prevented from telling you by a non-disclosure agreement.
Ian
That's is a bit unethical. You ask me to pay in advance blindly for something I do not what I will be getting?
Not really. You don't have to go for that offer. You can wait until it is released and get the update then if you like the look of the new features. (And I don't know what they are either.) But you wouldn't get the 20% discount.
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Whether or not you get the 20% at release discount may not be the most important factor for your decision.
Here are a few reasons - just general observations from the past for a number of different software products (not specifically C1) - including one's own preferences influencing decisions.- The chances are the initial discount offer may not be the last in the life of the release.
Some people prefer not to take the initial release of a product feeling it may be more stable (and so occupy less of their time) a few weeks or month later.
New feature lists can sometime change before final release, though this is usually rare once release is close.
A new option may be described in terms that sound attractive but possibly do not perform as you understood it would.
Anyone using a subscription model will be paying anyway (applies to all subscription vendors) - is that also unfair?
There may be additional, not preannounced, functionality updates later in the life of the version included at no cost. That would help to mitigate the payment sight unseen but still take advantage of the introductory discount.
As I said, these are generic observations where perpetual licenses are still available. Not relevant to subscription models.
I think of it like this.
Shall I just take it anyway as I will probably upgrade at some point so I may as well take advantage of the offer?
If I don't how significant is the real additional cost of buying later with no deal?
Might another deal come along within a period of time during which I would not feel frustrated by not having the new features? (Assuming that I was not obliged to upgrade because I had changed machines or ended up with an unsupported Operating System or bought a new to the market camera body or lens that is not supported by an older version when thinking of Photo Applications.)
Am I likely to really need what I think the new features might be from the point of release?
If I wait and discover that the new features would in some way be extremely useful and perhaps, for example, save me a lot of time or simplify my workflow would actually mean that the 'lost'' discount was hardly a big factor in a decision to go ahead and upgrade immediately at a point soon after the release?
It's certainly nice and personally satisfying to be able to take advantage of a deal but if there turns out to be a personal justification for making the upgrade anyway the relatively small price difference may be not important compared to the benefits that lead one to make the decision to buy anyway.
Make is a value worth thousands of units of currency and change the price from unaffordable to affordable and that might a different story - but no matter how I look at it I don't think that should really be considered an influence for this sort of decision no matter how much we might naturally want to take advantage of any deals we are offered.
Other opinions may vary.
People may think I am mad but this approach to decision making works for me these days. Previously to working that out I can show you a few boxes of software for various applications (when disks were the normal method of distribution) that were bought as deals and bundles and that I have never used or never used after the first few investigations. A very few of them were deliberately bought knowing they might be only for one-off projects, but many were just offers that looked too good to be true and they were - unless I really needed what was on offer. Which was rarely.
Just my thoughts.
Grant0
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