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Problem Creating User Styles

Grayson Lee
Hi

New C1 user here attempting to migrate my workflow to Capture One.

Is it possible to create a User Style which only changes the Highlights and White Point settings in an image?

If I create a User Style selecting only those two parameters, upon application of the style, it will also change Shadow parameters under the HDR tool and the shadow inputs of the Levels tool to a previous state.

I am able to save a user preset in Lightroom 6 which only adjusts the Highlights and Whites without altering the shadows and blacks settings.

Thanks in advance.

Grayson
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  • Ian Wilson
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    It's not entirely clear what you want. Do you want the preset to set the same value of highlight recovery (say 10) on every image you apply it to?

    Ian
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  • Grayson Lee
    Hi Ian:

    Sorry for being unclear.

    Say I have several presets under the HDR tool which show highlight settings of 10, 20, 30, 40 & 50 and shadow settings of 10, 20, 30, 40 & 50 as well. All presets were created using either Highlight Recovery of Shadow Recovery as appropriate under the Save Preset dialog box.

    If I switch between the presets from Highlight to Shadow Recovery, the opposite value changes as well.

    In Lightroom 6, the user presets will affect only the parameters which are saved, not any other. I am unable to achieve that in C1.

    I hope this clarifies things.

    Thanks,

    Grayson
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  • SFA
    [quote="GALee" wrote:
    Hi Ian:

    Sorry for being unclear.

    Say I have several presets under the HDR tool which show highlight settings of 10, 20, 30, 40 & 50 and shadow settings of 10, 20, 30, 40 & 50 as well. All presets were created using either Highlight Recovery of Shadow Recovery as appropriate under the Save Preset dialog box.

    If I switch between the presets from Highlight to Shadow Recovery, the opposite value changes as well.

    In Lightroom 6, the user presets will affect only the parameters which are saved, not any other. I am unable to achieve that in C1.

    I hope this clarifies things.

    Thanks,

    Grayson


    So are you saying that each preset you have defined in this example applies adjustment to only Highlight OR Shadow? Not to both values at the same time?

    If so, are you wishing that you can apply both presets and see both adjustments at the same time?

    But when you add the second preset the first reverts to no adjustment?

    Or you want it to revert but it does not?

    Have you enabled "Stack Styles"?

    For what it's worth I have always thought of HDR type adjustments being dynamic for each image (or very closely matched image) and have not seen the benefits of presets in that situation. 'However the option to set values for one image and then apply them to many can be useful.

    I guess it depends on what you are shooting and how you are using the results.


    Grant
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  • Grayson Lee
    Hi Grant:

    Thanks for the reply.

    So that's what "Stack Style" is for!

    Things seem to be working as I would like.

    As an event and wedding photographer, I have to make adjustments on large groups of images where exposure may vary. The quickest way for me to work through them is to be able to just click on different presets in a range.

    A studio photographer would not have this issue. From my understanding, C1 started out as software for studio/commercial photographers, so this functionality would not be relevant to them.

    With that functionality in place, the only thing I am missing from Lightroom 6 workflow is the Quick Develop panel in the Library module, which allows me to make quick adjustments on large groups of images. Specifically, it is very quick at adjusting exposure by enabling you to click on buttons which adjust exposure by 1/3 stop of 1 stop increments. I have tried adjusting exposure on the Quick Tab, but that only appears to adjust the most selected image, not the entire series of selected images.

    Best,

    Grayson
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  • SFA
    [quote="GALee" wrote:
    Hi Grant:

    Thanks for the reply.

    So that's what "Stack Style" is for!

    Things seem to be working as I would like.

    As an event and wedding photographer, I have to make adjustments on large groups of images where exposure may vary. The quickest way for me to work through them is to be able to just click on different presets in a range.

    A studio photographer would not have this issue. From my understanding, C1 started out as software for studio/commercial photographers, so this functionality would not be relevant to them.

    With that functionality in place, the only thing I am missing from Lightroom 6 workflow is the Quick Develop panel in the Library module, which allows me to make quick adjustments on large groups of images. Specifically, it is very quick at adjusting exposure by enabling you to click on buttons which adjust exposure by 1/3 stop of 1 stop increments. I have tried adjusting exposure on the Quick Tab, but that only appears to adjust the most selected image, not the entire series of selected images.

    Best,

    Grayson


    I often shoot outdoor sports events and almost always use the HDR tool to balance sky overexposure and shadows that are often darker than I would like.

    What I tend to do is think of the groups of images taken at around the same time as a sort of continuously changing lightiong situation with some failry common light/dark balance shot to shot but, overall, drifiting about a bit.

    So I edit one image, say, get what I thingk I want at that time. Copy the settings and then move to and apply the setting to the next image.

    Sometimes the same settings can work for several images because lighting is quite consistent. Sometimes I change a little image by image.

    Presets are not so useful in that workflow. But is can be very quick to use.

    Adding to that - you can make adjustement to multiple images - indeed all of them - if you wish.

    There is a toggle for "Edit all selected variants". A variant is both the original image or any of the "virtual copy" images where alternative edit options have been applied.

    If you have selected a large number of images and are changing, say, a star rating (something that is only being written to a file and does not have to re-calculate the image values), Edit All Selected variants ON will immediately update all images. Turning it Off allows you to work on just one image.

    If you are working on an edit where the system will, potentially, be recalculating a lot as you adjust things, only one image is adjusted at a time. However you can then copy and apply those edits to all selected images in one action provided Edit All Selected Images is toggled to be Active.

    Within that activity there are other options to allow control as required but that is the basic principle.

    The Copy and Apply workload is run as a batch operation and should be very fast.

    I have not used LR since version 1.4 (other than for a brief trial of V3 when it was released) and my impression back then was that LR appeared to be quite responsive comapred to some other applications because it applied adjustments to the jpg preview file being displayed. When you committed the changes it went off to do the full processing in the background and updated what it was displaying the current file and all the others bit by bit. Not easy to see it happening unless looking closely.

    C1 takes a different approach and will recalc an image in real time as adjusted but, to avoid the potential for having to make thousands of changes to thousands of files in real time, changes one and then allow rapidly deployment to the others once you are happy with the results.

    If you would prefer to avoid the sliders have a look at the large number of keyboard short cuts - especially those in the "Other" category for your needs - where specific value changes can be applied via the short cut keys to all selected images directly buy working with specific adjustment values, e.g. + or -1 of something, rather than values interpreted from a slider. That might be closer to what are used to.


    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Grayson Lee
    Hi Grant:

    Many thanks for all of your help! I am already very impressed with the raw conversion of C1 and I have just began to scratch the surface of its editing capabilities.

    Between the keyboard shortcuts and "Edit all selected variants", I am a very happy camper!

    I thought that variants meant virtual copies of a single image.

    I am looking forward to learning more about this program. One thing I have noticed when using keyboard shortcuts (for instance navigating between tool tabs). Sometimes the keyboard shortcuts stop working altogether. I am able to manually click on tabs, so C1 is not frozen. I end up closing and reopening C1 and the keyboard shortcuts start working again. Is this normal?

    Thanks,

    Grayson
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  • SFA
    [quote="GALee" wrote:
    Hi Grant:

    Many thanks for all of your help! I am already very impressed with the raw conversion of C1 and I have just began to scratch the surface of its editing capabilities.

    Between the keyboard shortcuts and "Edit all selected variants", I am a very happy camper!

    I thought that variants meant virtual copies of a single image.

    I am looking forward to learning more about this program. One thing I have noticed when using keyboard shortcuts (for instance navigating between tool tabs). Sometimes the keyboard shortcuts stop working altogether. I am able to manually click on tabs, so C1 is not frozen. I end up closing and reopening C1 and the keyboard shortcuts start working again. Is this normal?

    Thanks,

    Grayson


    Hi Grayson,

    Variant is a somewhat interchangeable term. Whether "Original" image, one or more of the "virtual" edits (in whatever "order" you have them and whichever ir set as the prime version) or a collection of of images/image edits all selected at the time of taking an action - they are all variants.

    After a while the apparent imprecision of the terminology, when one first comes across it, starts to make sense since to be too specific is actually unnecessary once one is comfortable with the way things work. Bear in mind there is a lot of personalisation possible in the Workspace or Workspaces you choose to use.

    As for the the short cuts - no I don't think what you are experiencing is normal but then I'm not a big short cut user.

    Compared with many applications Capture One is very "open". You rarely see any tools that require a "commit" action though sometimes it is logically necessary. However there are times when the "focus" of what the keyboard is doing moves from one type of window to another and the short cut commands available may move with the focus and context. Is it possible that you are experiencing that effect?

    Not being a full time short cut user examples don't come instantly to mind but if you can not some examples of what you see happening and what you were doing at the time I'm sure people will comment accordingly.

    Or you can create a Support Case and discuss it with the Support Team to check to see if you are indeed seeing something unexpected.

    HTH.


    Grant
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  • Robert Whetton
    all keyboard shortcuts are user definable 😊
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