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Feature Request: Use color editor as a selection tool

ansbil
As of now, with the color editor you can select regions by color range and edit a few color-related parameters. I thought it would be fantastic, if it was possible to also edit non-color parameters like contrast, clarity, structure, HDR, you name it.

In general: I'd like to use the color editor for making selections that can be processed with local adjustments. Making selections/masks by color range would be a very powerful tool! Much more intuitive and useful than drawing a mask by hand. A true magic wand 😉

How do you think about this?
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    I think that is a great idea. More over it was already requested multiple times, and I hope C1 listens to our voice and add color as mask tool soon. But again C1 is not to replace your editing software, it just contains features that simplifies RAW processing. For complex HDR work I will still stick to editing software and C1 will give you a great base for doing that.
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  • ansbil
    The idea came up when I was working on a large number of landscape shots and needed to improve the contrast and clarity in trees, sky, snow, rock, sand, etc. Landscape and nature photography is a good example where color-based editing is very natural and not so much "special effects".

    I'd already be happy, if contrast and HDR scaling was added to the current color editor.

    Also, luminance-based masking is worth considering. Often I need to apply an adjustment only to the brightest, ord darkest regions.

    The reason I dislike going to another software for editing is that Capture One has very good algorithms compared to others. Also others fail at dealing with large collections for selection and non-destructive editing. The workflow of C1 is great and I wouldn't need any other software actually.
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    You can export image to Photoshop edit and put it back to C1 library if requried. I often use this workflow to sync heavely edited images along original RAW files.
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  • ansbil
    Yes, but I wouldn't consider moderate color editing "heavily edited" 😉
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  • ansbil
    Yes, but I wouldn't consider moderate color editing "heavily edited" 😉
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  • meanwhile
    But again C1 is not to replace your editing software, it just contains features that simplifies RAW processing


    Sorry Andriy, but please do not limit my use of the software to your workflow.
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  • Keith Reeder
    He's not - he's simply (and rightly) saying that Capture One isn't, and nor should it be, a PhotoShop replacement.
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  • meanwhile
    People have been saying that for years. And yet, features that keep getting added to RAW conversion software are undeniably helpful. I rarely need Photoshop these days, and being able to stay in an uninterrupted RAW workflow has both long and short-term advantages.

    Or is this just old curmudgeon supporting new curmudgeon? 😊

    Being able to mask a particular color or tonal range is hardly Photoshop material.
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  • ansbil
    C1 is much more than RAW conversion. And that's a good thing. I agree it should not attempt to replace Photoshop, but it should be capable of doing high quality image (post)processing. IMO, everything that keeps the original image contents and only changes appearance can be subsumed under that category. Photoshop does way more beyond that.

    I love the C1 workflow of organizing images, ratings, albums, exporting to indivdiual folders, etc. C1 greatly helps with dealing with large quantities. And, as far as I can judge from what other RAW converting products I've tested so far, it does it better than the competition. I don't need Photoshop. Just decent image (post)processing.
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    All, I am not limiting or changing someone workflow 😄

    First of C1 is RAW convertor so main features are concentrated around that, in version 7 they also indicated that they are moving in area of DAM software, but not effects or composing\editing. Selection masks are in field editing and they are really slow. Adding more and more editing features to convertor will make it much slower, for creation output images, and more over further truncating data from original RAW image. Slowest part of whole C1 workflow is layers, which are added for cases where FAST editing is required, and they are not perfect.

    Hope that
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  • meanwhile
    Adding more and more editing features to convertor will make it much slower, for creation output images, and more over further truncating data from original RAW image.


    Not if done right - quite the opposite if implemented well.

    which are added for cases where FAST editing is required


    If they give quality results, there's no reason they can't be used for any kind of editing, not just quick and dirty.
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  • Andriy.Okhrimets
    meanwhile is just a nature of software, when more and more feature added, it becomes slow. I've described below why composing tools slow everything down.

    If they give quality results, there's no reason they can't be used for any kind of editing, not just quick and dirty. and that is not a plan for any serious work. Still finishing, effects and retouching are made in other software, because of more flexibility.

    Let it put this way, more masks, more complex masks- slower processing that is why masking is not main part of software.
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