Using the color correction controls in CO
I am not very comfortable using the color balance correction wheel & related sliders in CO (LE version). The help files are not very explicit on this topic - and there is no book on Capture One as there is on ACR, unfortunately. What would be a methodic approach, something working \"by the numbers\" perhaps, rather than the rather haphazard tinkering I tend to do 😉 ?
BTW, the same is true of the exposure controls (using the sliders vs. the levels and curves).
I understand this might require a rather long answer - perhaps someone could at least point me to the right direction.
-- Bernard
BTW, the same is true of the exposure controls (using the sliders vs. the levels and curves).
I understand this might require a rather long answer - perhaps someone could at least point me to the right direction.
-- Bernard
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Dear Bernard
Most of C1 controls work just like the theory of colour photography. If you have got by so far without knowing your degrees Kelvin from your clipping percentages you will have to do a bit of basic learning about photography.
However there is a lot you can do by trial and error and comparing results. I would advise spending a few days testing settings for yourself and making notes and comparisons.
Your settings and results might be different from mine. I have never yet had a histogram that looks remotely like the ones the guys get at Luminous Landscape;-(
Unfortunately there are no short cuts in life.
Bob Croxford0 -
Bob, thanks for your reply. But I have done my \"basic learning about photography\" already, and a bit more than that I guess.
I am perfectly at ease with Photoshop and ACR. I usually prefer (for my camera) the results I obtain with Capture One. But I would like to be more efficient, and would appreciate learning what methods/approaches other photographers apply, particularly when using the color correction tab.0 -
I would suggest ignoring the redundant color correction wheel and just using the two color sliders: they work just the same way they do in Camera Raw.
However, the easiest and most accurate way to set the color balance is to shoot a neutral standard for each lighting setup and then use the eyedropper to automatically set the color balance based on that.
WF0 -
Wolf Follower, thanks for your reply. I would suggest ignoring the redundant color correction wheel and just using the two color sliders: they work just the same way they do in Camera Raw.
Yes, that part (the two color sliders) is OK, that's what I do.
However, I was under the impression that the color correction wheel and adjacent sliders would be useful for specific color corrections, rather than for adjusting the color (lighting) balance itself. This is the part where I have no definite method to follow.However, the easiest and most accurate way to set the color balance is to shoot a neutral standard for each lighting setup and then use the eyedropper to automatically set the color balance based on that.
Yes, I do this when possible (and when I think of doing it !), using a Whibal.
-- Bernard0 -
My understanding is that the color wheel is provided as an easier way of making a \"creative\" color balance after the basic adjustment is made with the sliders. It can't target specific color ranges like you can with the Photoshop Hue/Saturation control. Don't feel compelled to include it in your workflow just because it's there. Again, I recommend just leaving it set at 0 as part of your standard method.
WF0 -
[quote="Wolf Follower" wrote:
Don't feel compelled to include it in your workflow just because it's there. Again, I recommend just leaving it set at 0 as part of your standard method.
Thanks. Will do! Unless someone from Phase One has something to add?
As for the Exposure tab... I do basically as outlined by Don Lashier ():
EXPOSURE:
- if the exposure is off, first adjust EC
- if the tonality is compressed (histo doesn't reach the ends), adjust the WP and BP sliders on levels.
- Adjust the midtones if needed.
CONTRAST
- if the tonality is fairly well centered and evenly spread with just a single peak, then use the contrast control if needed.
- Otherwise use curves if contrast needs tweaking.
-- Bernard0 -
>My understanding is that the color wheel is provided as an easier way of making a \"creative\" color balance
This used to be the case, but it seems that the colour wheel has taken on a slightly different role since the introduction of Styles.
Now it seems to be a way of creating color temp changes relative to the white balance. So, for example, you can save a style which implements a colour balance that is +/- 400K from the absolute white balance value by using the colour wheel. Several of the default styles provided show the effect of the colour balance wheel in action.
Colour balance corrections made via the wheel are also saved separately from 'traditional' slider-based white balance corrections in the definition of a Style (when you select Style:Save as).
Unfortunately, there is very little documentation of this, potentially, extremely useful feature.
Jason0 -
[quote="JSewell" wrote:
>My understanding is that the color wheel is provided as an easier way of making a "creative" color balance
This used to be the case, but it seems that the colour wheel has taken on a slightly different role since the introduction of Styles.
Styles are a "Pro" feature. I have the LE version.[quote="JSewell" wrote:
Unfortunately, there is very little documentation of this, potentially, extremely useful feature.
Indeed. It would be nice if someone from PhaseOne would step into this discussion...
-- Bernard0 -
>Styles are a \"Pro\" feature. I have the LE version.
OK, but can you still transfer the Colour Balance Correction value set by the colour wheel to other images using the Apply Settings tool?
I think it is easiest to regard the sliders as the way of setting white balance, and the colour wheel as the way to apply a digital photo filter (much like the photo filter layers function in Photoshop)
J0 -
[quote="JSewell" wrote:
OK, but can you still transfer the Colour Balance Correction value set by the colour wheel to other images using the Apply Settings tool?
I think it is easiest to regard the sliders as the way of setting white balance, and the colour wheel as the way to apply a digital photo filter (much like the photo filter layers function in Photoshop)
J
Yes, I can. Thanks!
I guess nobody from PhaseOne will add anything...?
-- Bernard0
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