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RF Lens profiles

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  • SFA

    Does Canon not provide manufacturer correction for these relatively new lenses?

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  • Tom Jenkins

    Not that can be read in Capture One.  Adobe has created good ones.  I am assuming DPP can read them.

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  • SFA

    Tom,

    When you look in the Lens Correction tool for the Profile do you see "Generic" or "Manufacturer"?

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  • Tom Jenkins

    Yes, I use generic for my tilt shift lenses so I am pretty familiar with that method.

    It doesn't fully control chromatic aberrations or compensate for all geometric distortions. 

    I use a Zeiss Milvus 21mm often and C1 offers a very good lens profile.  Can't get it to look nearly as good by going the "generic" route.

     

    All that being said, is it too much to ask that a "professional" software profile "professional" lenses? 

    I see lot of EF-S and EF-M lens profiles even Powershot fixed lens cameras..

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  • SFA

    I think the EF-S lenses are mostly older lenses but ones that were quite popular back when crop sensors were more common than "full frame".

    EF-M had a place for a while as well, even with professionals using them as backup cameras or a way to get into smaller bodies at lower costs than might otherwise be the case.

    The same was true, for a while, for some of the Powershot offerings and, of course, back some time the jpgs would be adjusted in camera but not the RAW files and no Manufacturer values were communicated - or at least that is how I understood things. Micro4/3 started to change that out of necessity.

    But back to your lenses. Do you not also have a Manufacturer profile option for those? As an alternative to the Generic?

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  • Tom Jenkins

    No there is not a manufacturer's profile option.  I'm surprised you don't know that.

    With all due respect, it seems to me that you are reluctant to address the central issue of my request.

    I'm just asking for these RF lenses to be profiled.

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  • SFA

    Hi Tom,

    I discovered yesterday that there is no Manufacturer profile.

    May favoured test image source seemed to want to download CR3 files as video files and C1 was not happy opening them but I have now resolved that.

    Quite why Canon's do not have Manufacturer profiles, especially for mirrorless cameras and lenses, is a puzzle since Sony, Fuji and Nikon do.

    And of course there is a case for suggesting that if the lens manufacturers cannot correctly software profile their own lenses to a satisfactory result C1 might have the same problem - or simply be duplicating effort for no reason.

    Indeed I have seen comments from a couple of Fuji users to the effect that C1 provided profiles (made before the C1/Fuji relationship came into being) were not the ones they wanted to use by default.

    Anyway, if Canon are not providing the information but are correcting in-camera processed output I guess they have their reasons and it is not unreasonable to seek a profile. Whether that comes from a C1 analysis of the Canon lenses or some ability to make use of the presumed internal adjustments may dictate when they can be provided.

    Meanwhile I'll stick with my older kit.

     

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  • SFA

    Tom,

    I just checked a downloaded jpg version of one of the RAW files I have previously downloaded.

    The lens used is the 35mm F1.8 macro, for which C1 has a profile and it is identified by C1 BUT with the adjustment set to 0.

    That is at f4 where one might expect some correction to be applicable I suppose.  Maybe a different aperture would produce a different adjustment value.

    Changing the setting to somewhere near or at 100% applied gives the same result as the jpg, albeit with a slightly different amount of default crop.

    In terms of distortion correction requirement - the subject matter is not critically in great need of correction so it's difficult to tell whether the changes are necessary for the image as shot. I may try and find some other sample later but right now i have other things to do - just thought I would update my observations so far in case they have some wider relevance.

     

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  • dee jjjaaaa

    > No there is not a manufacturer's profile option.  I'm surprised you don't know that.

    he was expecting that Canon as professional company will embed optics correction date in raw files ... but alas :-)... 

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  • PhilW

    I am also negatively surprised that Phase One is still not providing profiles for these pretty widely used professional lenses. It's a shame that Canon does not seem to provide the profile information in a usable way in their raw files. But pointing fingers towards the other company in either direction is not the appreciated way to deal with this.
    I'm loving Capture One since a decade, using it as a professional photographer, but this makes me use Lightroom for assignments where distortion corrections are essential (architectural, industrial photography). It's soon 2 years, since these lenses were released.

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