Feature Request: Open folder without import
Hi,
It would be great if you could use the library to open folders like in Windows.
I.e. I have a folder with images that are not yet in the catalog or in the session, then I would like the possibility that I can open the folder without adding or importing it.
And that when I open the folder Capture One displays the images on its own, again without importing (but that it creates the preview images).
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My problem is catalogs with a huge mass of images that Capture One handles poorly.
It's smarter to create previews only when you need them.
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And of course the speed, I have 24 native cores and about one preview is created per second.
For a catalog with 34.000 images, that's 34.000 seconds.
Greets
Thomas D.
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In sessions, you can just navigate to a folder and view images. (Capture One will still have to generate previews so that it has something to show you, but those will be located in a subfolder of the image folder, and not in the database as they are with a catalog.)
One way of proceeding would be to look at the folder in question using a session, mark the images you want in the catalog perhaps with a star rating or a colour tag, then import just those into the catalog.
Or doesn't the new Import dialog box help? It has a viewer so that you can see a larger scale version of an image (admittedly it's only derived from the embedded JPG, not a preview generated from the raw file), then only import the ones you want.
Ian
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""In sessions, you can just navigate to a folder and view images. (Capture One will still have to generate previews so that it has something to show you, but those will be located in a subfolder of the image folder, and not in the database as they are with a catalog.""
That only works with imported images.
The import process really just holds you up and is a Lightroom relic.
If the catalog becomes corrupt due to an error you have to re-import everything, it's so cumbersome.
I use every RAW converter on the planet (almost), with DxO you just go into the folder without importing and start working, just like that, without importing without waiting, its so easy.
And no, Capture One is so comprehensive in its image processing capabilities that no other raw converter can compete, just in case someone says "then use DxO".
Greets
Thomas D.
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Right now I have the problem that an old catalog was in a folder where I had created a new catalog, both catalogs had their own folders, Capture One still somehow read the old catalog and refused to sync the folders with the images.
I had to delete all the catalogs to create an error free one.
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When a folder is added from a session to a folder of a catalog, C1-22 adheres to the session defaults, no images can be synchronized.
For C1-22 to work properly, you should delete all previous Capture One folders.
Again a catalog problem, best to manage everything via the folder hierarchy of the operating system then there are no corrupt catalogs or former settings that lead to problems.
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Tx,
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""In sessions, you can just navigate to a folder and view images. (Capture One will still have to generate previews so that it has something to show you, but those will be located in a subfolder of the image folder, and not in the database as they are with a catalog.""
That only works with imported images."
Nope, in a session-based editing activity you can simply navigate to the folder and the images will be displayed for edit. No Import required.
It might be useful to set the folder as a "Favourite" to make it easier to find again later - but that also is optional.
If, later, you want that folder and the edits to appear in a Catalog that you have to import it presumably as a referenced folder.
In that context "import" means that C1 adds a link to the file, optionally stores the edits in the catalog database, and adds thumbnail and preview files. Which is what catalogues do.
The images have separate edit identities in their respective catalogue(s) and session(s). No Synchronisation.
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Tx:
with DxO you just go into the folder without importing and start working, just like that, without importing without waiting, its so easy.
As Ian and SFA pointed out, it is very similar if you navigate to the folder in System Folders section of the lib tool with any session. Not without waiting but you can start working during preview generation. You can delete the session afterwards if you like, your edits and the previews remain in the sidecar folder.
SFA:
The images have separate edit identities in their respective catalogue(s) and session(s). No Synchronisation.
Yes, unfortunately. :-)
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I've a workaround.
I start a import to add my folder, i stop the import before i press importing.
I sync the folder via the lib tool, C1 does then sync the folder without creating the previews.
I'm now able to enter the folders in the cataloge.
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But in my case its better to use sessions, also for my big drive.
I still need to investigate because of the layers and there i need to look into the setting file of an image.
I tried today to find a specific file linked to an image in my catalouge but i wasn't able to.
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@BeO
The images have separate edit identities in their respective catalogue(s) and session(s). No Synchronisation.
Yes, unfortunately. :-)
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From my perspective that is not a problem.
I would be OK with a "switch" that turned sync on and off IF it was a really simple option that could be made to work simply in technical terms.
Ass soon as people get to the point of wanting to specify the terms and conditions of links and how the rules should be defined in the case of multiple links between multiple sessions and catalogues ... that's not where I would want the funding from the general licenses to go.
Come up with a special version along the lines of a CH or Aerial product, one that is funded by the interested parties, and I would not care what was included with it, how complex it became and any of the potential reliability issues that might arise. So long of none of that development affected the product I purchased.
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SFA, we have this already with XMP files, load and sync, or full sync, according to preferences, this should not be rocket science. But I share your concern that any new feature in that area would eventually affect reliability of C1, you know why I think so.
Tx,
But in my case its better to use sessions, also for my big drive.
I still need to investigate because of the layers and there i need to look into the setting file of an image.
I tried today to find a specific file linked to an image in my catalouge but i wasn't able to.
Session:
Settings and keywords are in the .cos text file, layer masks in the binary .comask file.
Catalog:
Settings and keywords are in the database, layer masks in the binary .comask file.
Keywords can be alternatively put into xmp files, with both variants.
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